I have cam phaser issue :(

[StealthyBulldog]

@Vipersinu2 not sure why I can't see 90% of your posts all of a sudden. Is this the same for anyone else? I see you quoted Timmytan, but can't see anything that you typed. Wondering if it's because I'm not on the tapatalk app? Dunno, but it's annoying!

 

[Vipersinu2]

@Vipersinu2 not sure why I can't see 90% of your posts all of a sudden. Is this the same for anyone else? I see you quoted Timmytan, but can't see anything that you typed. Wondering if it's because I'm not on the tapatalk app? Dunno, but it's annoying!

I was asking how many miles on your truck when the cam phasers and trubo were replaced?

 

[rjdelp7]

Correct me if i'm wrong, but weren't cam phasers one of the most common and potentially catastrophic problems on the previous-gen Expeditions? (I had a '12 Expedition Limited before my current '19 Limited)

If that's the case, did FoMoCo seriously not address this problem at all when they redesigned for the current-gen?

General Motors make a Eco-Tech engine that has similar Cam Phaser and timing chain issues. This design needs religious maintenance. However, The Coyote, has not had a major failure with them. Most of them get run hard in Mustangs. I think Ford knows, people having this issue are maxing out oil changes and using cheapo filters.

 

[Fozzy]

General Motors make a Eco-Tech engine that has similar Cam Phaser and timing chain issues. This design needs religious maintenance. However, The Coyote, has not had a major failure with them. Most of them get run hard in Mustangs. I think Ford knows, people having this issue are maxing out oil changes and using cheapo filters.

I think you are right. I don’t know if all Ford dealers do this but mine use to offer 3 oil and filter changes for $79.99. It’s now $99.99 for 3 and it expires in one year. I asked the service manager how they make any money on that deal. He said the usual, bulk pricing, super fast tech’s and customer appreciation. He also said if you own a EcoBoost and want it to run good and last a long time, 5000 miles is the sweet spot. You don’t need catch cans, high dollar oil or any of that crap. Just keep the oil clean and new. I have done this with my last two EB’s and never had a problem with the engine. Knock on the plastic engine cover for luck. Probably jinxed myself.


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[Dice Roll]

The guys on yellow bullet say not to go over 5k miles and to stay under 550hp if you want life out of an eco boost

I have to say that my truck has the updated parts since it’s an August build and it sounds like a hammer factory for first minute or two. It doesn’t sound like the videos I’ve seen posted of phaser failure. It’s a loud engine.

used to be stuff had air pumps that came on during initial start up and I wonder if this engine uses one as well?

 

[Vipersinu2]

Dice. Can you post a video of what your truck sounds like cold start?

 

[Dice Roll]

Maybe someday. I don’t drive much now with school out.

 

[Gumby]

The guys on yellow bullet say not to go over 5k miles and to stay under 550hp if you want life out of an eco boost

I have to say that my truck has the updated parts since it’s an August build and it sounds like a hammer factory for first minute or two. It doesn’t sound like the videos I’ve seen posted of phaser failure. It’s a loud engine.

used to be stuff had air pumps that came on during initial start up and I wonder if this engine uses one as well?

When we had a 2010 Flex (factory ordered) whenever you would open the door the fuel pump or fuel system (IIRC) would pressure up. You could hear a slight whine for about 2-3 seconds. Perfectly normal. I do not hear that with the Expy.

 

[TheDoug]

Well I took in in Monday and I heard back today that it is the cam phaser (which is what I told them and took audio/video off issue). There is some part that is back ordered because of all the failures... hopefully this doesn't take too long.

 

[Bill Schell]

2018 with only 48000 miles and I'm getting cam phasers and timing chain replaced next week . I've had the cold start tickety-tick noise on and off and while on a road trip to ID last week, the engine light came on. This now very long in the tooth issue with stretched timing chains and cam phasers is a really poor reflection on Ford and their Engineering group. Seriously, there is GOBS of internet traffic regarding this issue going back nearly a decade.... WTF!!

While I thankfully purchased the Premium Care extended warranty (Flood ESP), will get a free loaner, and am only out $100, but I hate having this extent of work done a brand new car. If Ford had to reimburse customers for their time to/from and sitting dealerships, they'd be broke - FLAT BROKE. The job takes 3-4 days primarily because the sealant has to dry that long.

I was told by the service specialist that the replacement parts are a new/improved design, though I haven't been able to find anything on that specifically. Does anyone know whether this is fact or fiction and what exactly has been changed?