R.I.P. my good ol’ Expy

[Ozzy]

So, this happened today. Evidently something came loose in the timing cover and exited the bank 2 side. Probably a lot more $ and effort to fix for me than it’s worth.



Oz

‘05 Expedition EB, 5.4 3v

 

[Aspen03]

Yikes, sucks to see that happen. Any clue as to what it was? Nothing looks obvious to me but I'm also not well versed on the 3v. It looks to be a pretty serious event though, nice chunk of metal missing there.

Likely right on the more $ and effort unless the rest of it is in good shape still. If so a motor may still be considerably less than a replacement vehicle in current times.

 

[Hamfisted]

That's just a flesh wound ! That's the valve cover there with the hole in it. How many miles on the motor? Have the timing chains & guides ever been replaced ? Have you been hearing startup rattle for a while ?
Could be just a chunk of the chain guide that went north instead of south. A new valve cover is about $130 at Tasca. Maybe a timing chain job is all it needs. If the Expy is in otherwise good shape it may be worth spending some money to repair it. All is not lost ! LOL


https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-valve-cover-driver-s-side-lh-9l1z6582c?c=Zz1lbmdpbmUmcz1lbmdpbmUmbD0xOCZuPVNlYXJjaCBSZXN1bHRzJmE9Zm9yZCZvPWV4cGVkaXRpb24meT0yMDA1JnQ9ZWRkaWUtYmF1ZXImZT01LTRsLXY4LWdhcw==

 

[JExpedition07]

Chain slapped the cover, happens all the time on the old F-150s. Engine is likely fine check that it’s still in time didn’t bend anything and do timing job. If not put it up for sale, there is a 90 percent chance that engine will live to see another day.

 

[Ozzy]

I thought it’s the front timing cover, I’ll have to have a look again in the light without it pouring rain on me. But then the wonder... “WTF came through that hole???” It’s gonna sit a while regardless, and while it’s not in bad shape overall with 267,000 on it-plus lots of the usual 2nd gen issues conquered- it’ll have to be a project now. I do love this truck.


Oz

‘05 Expedition EB, 5.4 3v

 

[Ozzy]

Just for the record, The known things that preceded the issue, and the after:

I replaced a faulty VCT solenoid a few weeks ago. Those were both replaced about a year and a half ago, bank 2 went bad a while back and caused occasional timing error codes, and had a pretty decent oil leak. Since fixed no codes thrown.

Wife was driving it to doctor when it broke. She had called and said “Truck is smoking I think from the engine. But, no CEL and gauges are normal, so it’s ok right?” Told her get that thing home STAT! Died as she turned around.

Codes I get as of this evening: 0345, 0021, 300, 305, 306, 307, 308.

So, it has a timing issue now of some kind, and it’s on bank 2, as is the misfires.

That’s what I know. I’ll be adding to the story soon I’m sure.


Oz

‘05 Expedition EB, 5.4 3v

 

[Hamfisted]

Is that 267k miles, and never a timing chain / oil pump / phaser job ??

 

[Ozzy]

Allegedly, the phasers were replaced / timing job done right before I purchased it from a small town lot here in IL. Of course I find out after the fact they were known for tossing in used parts if they could, rather than new China parts even. So, it was half assed at best I’m sure.


Oz

‘05 Expedition EB, 5.4 3v

 

[Ozzy]

Following up a bit. I haven’t done any work yet, but I’ve decided to tear into the front end and see what happened. Hoping it’s some of the above suggestions. I do know the motor still turns with no noise (I didn’t try it long, just enough to assure myself I wasn’t working in vain.

Dude note: I used to use Tapatalk app to access the forum, but after its most recent update, I seem to have lost that ability. So, I didn’t ghost on y’all. Just can’t get notifications anymore.

Wish me luck!

edit: If anyone knows an app that works in this forum, lemme know!

 

[Hamfisted]

Did you order any parts yet ?

Driver's side valve cover from Tasca Parts

Ford OEM Timing Kit, Oil Pump, Crankshaft Bolt on Amazon



You'll also need a power steering pulley puller kit . Harbor Freight has one for $20 that works well.



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[Ozzy]

Did you order any parts yet ?

Driver's side valve cover from Tasca Parts

Ford OEM Timing Kit, Oil Pump, Crankshaft Bolt on Amazon



You'll also need a power steering pulley puller kit . Harbor Freight has one for $20 that works well.



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I haven’t ordered parts yet. I figure open it up a bit, see what actually happened, then go from there. Once the valve cover is off, I’ll see if there’s anything amiss inside before taking it further. I’m betting on cheap timing parts, but don’t want to overlook the possibility that valves and/or other valve train parts were collateral damage.

Thanks for the heads up!