Anyone regret going to LT Load E tires?

[duneslider]

After having more than my fair share of flats on the expedition I am thinking that moving to some BFG AT LT tires might be what I need. I know the ride will be more firm with LT tires but how bad are we talking here? I have had them on trucks in the past but these were solid axle trucks that rode rough either way.

I am just curious if anyone has found them to be terribly offensive on the expedition. I do tow a camper and drive on dirt roads a lot.

 

[Pawpaw]

I've been running 42 psi cold in my BFG's. Firmer then the P rated Michelins I had but better for towing and puncture resistance. 1 to 2 mpg less than stockers depending on size. I'm running the 275x70x18's on stock FX4 wheels.

 

[Squark]

I run Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3 LT load range E tires. They're a little louder than the stock tires, but the ride isn't bad. I keep them aired down in the mid-upper 40s unless I'm towing.

 

[lv2drive]

zero regrets here.

stock 20’s. pulled the factory toyo D’s (which were solid on highway but that’s about it...) & mounted the Nokian Rotiiva AT-Plus E-rated. after a year of full spectrum driving, with our brutal PA potholes & dirt / rock backroads, trips to maine backcountry, i wouldn’t go back from these tires if you paid me.... running 42psi, i think between the rolling resistance compounds they use, the super strong but flexy Aramid sidewalls that help it achieve the AT + E-Rating while keeping the weight way down, they are super comfortable in all driving situations.... more stable under load, even at speed, yet still forgiving at the same time, with no significant mpg reduction & double the tread depth & triple peak snow rated. highly recommended this rubber setup on the expy for year round all around applications.

 

[duneslider]

I'm not scared of a little noise, or reduced mileage. (I daily drive a jeep on 35" mud tires) I am hoping for increased puncture resistance and if they do better towing that is a plus.

 

[duneslider]

I've been running 42 psi cold in my BFG's. Firmer then the P rated Michelins I had but better for towing and puncture resistance. 1 to 2 mpg less than stockers depending on size. I'm running the 275x70x18's on stock FX4 wheels. View attachment 73116View attachment 73117

That's the tire I am looking at, I hadn't seen the 275/70r18 though, I was looking at 275/65r18 (stock). Any fitment or rubbing issues with that tire?

 

[duneslider]

zero regrets here.

stock 20’s. pulled the factory toyo D’s (which were solid on highway but that’s about it...) & mounted the Nokian Rotiiva AT-Plus E-rated. after a year of full spectrum driving, with our brutal PA potholes & dirt / rock backroads, trips to maine backcountry, i wouldn’t go back from these tires if you paid me.... running 42psi, i think between the rolling resistance compounds they use, the super strong but flexy Aramid sidewalls that help it achieve the AT + E-Rating while keeping the weight way down, they are super comfortable in all driving situations.... more stable under load, even at speed, yet still forgiving at the same time, with no significant mpg reduction & double the tread depth & triple peak snow rated. highly recommended this rubber setup on the expy for year round all around applications.

Not a bad looking tire, thanks for the suggestion.

 

[duneslider]

I run Bridgestone Dueler A/T Revo 3 LT load range E tires. They're a little louder than the stock tires, but the ride isn't bad. I keep them aired down in the mid-upper 40s unless I'm towing.

I had some duelers years ago and liked them a lot, they held up well.

 

[Meeker]

I run the Michelin AT/2 LT 18" tires - All Terrain, but I use them year round. Just went through a spring 14" snow dump and had no issues at all, even climbing hills (and dodging all the buses that were stuck)... I run them at 40-42 psi unless I'm towing or carrying a heavy load. The tires should be at 44 psi to carry the load my axles are rated for so I'm careful to air up when hauling.
Slightly more firm ride at that low pressure, slightly more noise (barely noticeable), slightly less fuel efficiency (< 1 mpg I would estimate), way better traction than the original Primacys, and no punctures! The original reason I upgraded was to lessen trailer sway, but I think I could have aired up my Primacy's to their max psi and they would have been similar from that perspective. Towing I run 50psi now and the trailer is solid (with Blue Ox WDH).

 

[cptbligh]

I've got 285/60R20 Toyo MTs and the ride has been fine. Would rather have AT3s like on my F150 if I had it to do over, as they're around 13lbs lighter. Between the weight and larger size I have to lock out 9&10 gear to keep it from being a total dog at highway speeds and mileage sucks. I live down half a mile of dirt road and travel rough county roads so it's not a huge deal though

 

[duneslider]

I've got 285/60R20 Toyo MTs and the ride has been fine. Would rather have AT3s like on my F150 if I had it to do over, as they're around 13lbs lighter. Between the weight and larger size I have to lock out 9&10 gear to keep it from being a total dog at highway speeds and mileage sucks. I live down half a mile of dirt road and travel rough county roads so it's not a huge deal though

Toyo mt's are the heaviest tire I have run on my jeep, they last amazingly well for a mud tire but are extremely heavy. 33's were heavier than bfg 35's.

 

[JasonH]

After having more than my fair share of flats on the expedition I am thinking that moving to some BFG AT LT tires might be what I need. I know the ride will be more firm with LT tires but how bad are we talking here? I have had them on trucks in the past but these were solid axle trucks that rode rough either way.

I am just curious if anyone has found them to be terribly offensive on the expedition. I do tow a camper and drive on dirt roads a lot.

Most of my driving is on paved roads, but the upgrade was worth it for me. Load "E" provided much more peace of mind as far as puncture resistance and more stable towing, as well as high-speed (75+) driving. If you have a Discount Tire nearby, I think they will let you return the tires within a reasonable period if you decide they aren't for you.

 

[Pawpaw]

That's the tire I am looking at, I hadn't seen the 275/70r18 though, I was looking at 275/65r18 (stock). Any fitment or rubbing issues with that tire?

No rubbing at stock FX4 height. Quiet on the highway also. Tires are 33.2x 11 so pretty close to being an inch taller then the stock 275x65x18 Michelin Primacy tires. A lot better looking tire than the older TA/KO model

 

[1111ExpyEL1111]

Not a bad looking tire, thanks for the suggestion.

I have Nokian Rotiva's on both our 2012 and 2016 Expy's. You WILL NOT be disappointed!

 

[chuck s]

I'm curious about all the flat tires. What kind of flats are you getting? Gonna jink myself but I've had Expeditions with P-metric tires since 2007, at least 200,000 miles, and never experienced a flat tire on either of them.

-- Chuck

 

[MartinB]

I got myself these Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT in 275/75R18. I could not be any happier. they are surprisingly quiet on highway for a fairly agressive tire. if you plan offroading it does work well.

 

[sjwelds]

I got myself these Cooper Discoverer AT3 XLT in 275/75R18. I could not be any happier. they are surprisingly quiet on highway for a fairly agressive tire. if you plan offroading it does work well.

Any lift/leveling kit on your Expedition?

 

[duneslider]

I'm curious about all the flat tires. What kind of flats are you getting? Gonna jink myself but I've had Expeditions with P-metric tires since 2007, at least 200,000 miles, and never experienced a flat tire on either of them.

-- Chuck

When I had the stock michelins the flats were all slow leaks and on two occasions the tire place told me they were small rocks that were lodged and piercing the tire. All leaks showed after trips to Moab, only drove dirt roads nothing crazy.

I bought the current Big O AT's hoping they would be a bit better than the stock michelins. Almostall the flats have been large, two tires now have been replaced due to the store not feeling like they can fix them. All have been through the tread, no sidewall damage. One flat occurred on the road, very large hole. One flat was a large hole again driving a dirt road to cut down a Christmas tree, this one the tire had to be replaced. One hole was a smaller leak, and was repaired. This last one turned out to be two holes, one small leak and one large hole, tire was replaced. By large, I have been able to easily fit my large craftsman flat blade screw driver through the hole.

They ended up not having the tires I wanted in stock so they are bringing them in and I will get them put on later, although, I have two new tires on it now but I don't trust them at all.

 

[Expediter]

from, my experience, load Range E has been a great choice....like you i was concerned...fortunately my experience has been very positive. I drive a 2020 Max FX4 with Ready Lift 3/2. level. OEM 18" FX4 Rims. From day one of delivery, I ran Nitto Ridge Grappler 305/60/R18 for 30k miles until i got tired of the noise, the drifting and the dangerous handling/slipping on rainy roads. Currently running Cooper Discoverer AT XLT 305 65 R18. This is an E load tire. I run them at 38 PSI. No bag, no drift, quiet, & smooth. Can air them way up when i want to tow 7500 travel trailer. I too was concerned about a harsh ride, but this has not been the case whatsoever...the ride has improved and I'm glad i did it. I think the extra plies add some needed support that P tires lack, especially with the larger tires on the 18" rims and lower psi. I spend a good amount of time on the highway between sandy farms and citrus groves here in Florida as well as some long-distance runs north...the grapplers were great off-road and looked cool, but miserable on the road esp after some mileage. The Cooper Discoverer AT XLT Loa Range E has been a great pairing for the last 5000k miles thus far.

 

[tekrsq]

I went from E rated Michelins to P rated Firestone Destination A/T's. Biggest mistake of my life. Should've stayed with E rated tires.