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How have the Recon Grapper been holding up? I have always been a BFG guy but interested in the Grappler.
I only have about 5k on them so not much time spent with them. I have had several KO2's and they are great tires. My initial impressions are: size for size the Nitto's are larger and more aggressive appearing than the BFG's. I would say the KO2's run small. The Nittos are louder than the KO2's but not unbearable. I believe the KO2's would be better in the snow as they have the snowflake rating and smaller tread blocks and siping. I do have 2 other sets of Nitto Ridge Grapplers and have been extremely happy with them. Personally I am happy with the Nitto Recon Grapplers and would buy them again.
 

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I only have about 5k on them so not much time spent with them. I have had several KO2's and they are great tires. My initial impressions are: size for size the Nitto's are larger and more aggressive appearing than the BFG's. I would say the KO2's run small. The Nittos are louder than the KO2's but not unbearable. I believe the KO2's would be better in the snow as they have the snowflake rating and smaller tread blocks and siping. I do have 2 other sets of Nitto Ridge Grapplers and have been extremely happy with them. Personally I am happy with the Nitto Recon Grapplers and would buy them again.
They sound like great tires. Thanks for the write up!
 

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I have had zero issues with the Recon Grappler 295-70-18 on the stock Timberline wheels. It fits the body lines well. I have 35x12.5x17 on my Raptor but when fitting them on the Timberline the clearance was tight so I went with the 295'sView attachment 75167
How was the clearance "width wise" when running the Raptor 35s?

I am looking at going initially with 295/70/18 like you have on stock rims which is 34.26 H x 11.61 W
But I wanted to get 17" rims as another set and the closest size I could find are

295/70/17 Which is 33.26 H x 11.61 W
I did not want to go smaller H then the 18" version so the only other option I could find is
315/70/17 Which is 34.36 H x 12.40 W (same H as the 295/70/18 but 3/4" wider)

So I was wondering how those raptors wheels fits width wise.

Thanks!
 

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Went just a little bigger today, but down a lot on the wheel size.

From soccer mom mall crawler...

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To a Moab family adventure vehicle...

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Went from the stock 285/45R22 to 275/70R18. Little taller, little skinnier, little lighter overall.
After seeing YogiTheBear's pictures, I knew those Ford F150 Tremor wheels would look really good on the Magnetic Gray of my truck, so I had to get them.
I was torn between the Cooper Discoverer AT4 XLT or the Discount Tire Exclusive Cooper Discoverer ATP II. I couldn't see where I'd gain much on the XLT and the price difference was enough to make me go with the ATP II.

One down side to watching them change my tires is that while it was up on the lift, I got a glimpse of how it'd look with a lift kit on it. Going to have to do the ReadyLift sometime next year.
 

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Went just a little bigger today, but down a lot on the wheel size.

From soccer mom mall crawler...

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To a Moab family adventure vehicle...

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Went from the stock 285/45R22 to 275/70R18. Little taller, little skinnier, little lighter overall.
After seeing YogiTheBear's pictures, I knew those Ford F150 Tremor wheels would look really good on the Magnetic Gray of my truck, so I had to get them.
I was torn between the Cooper Discoverer AT4 XLT or the Discount Tire Exclusive Cooper Discoverer ATP II. I couldn't see where I'd gain much on the XLT and the price difference was enough to make me go with the ATP II.

One down side to watching them change my tires is that while it was up on the lift, I got a glimpse of how it'd look with a lift kit on it. Going to have to do the ReadyLift sometime next year.
Wow that looks really good. What an improvement!
 

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Well, after waiting 5 years to get my new Expy I finally got my Platinum Max in early October and finally got my Fuel Rebels and Ready Lift 3/2. Down the road I’m going to install at 3” lift once someone comes out with something like Rough Country but with the proper brackets for CCD. Tomorrow I’ll post a pic of it in day light but I was pretty stoked to finally see its profile so I parked it across the street under a light for a better photo. I took a lot of inspo from ExpeditionDrive as I’ve been oggling his rig for what seems a few years. I’m definitely going to have to cut the front of the running boards an inch because of rub when I’m making a tight turn. Other than that it’s working perfectly! Only non suspension issue was they disconnected a bunch of sensors and now I have to get all those sensors reset cuz proximity, downhill, ABS, and a bunch of other stuff is all wacky in regards to settings and alerts now. Anyone else have to deal with that?52E73046-124D-4380-8D5B-04278A54D0E0.jpeg
 
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How was the clearance "width wise" when running the Raptor 35s?

I am looking at going initially with 295/70/18 like you have on stock rims which is 34.26 H x 11.61 W
But I wanted to get 17" rims as another set and the closest size I could find are

295/70/17 Which is 33.26 H x 11.61 W
I did not want to go smaller H then the 18" version so the only other option I could find is
315/70/17 Which is 34.36 H x 12.40 W (same H as the 295/70/18 but 3/4" wider)

So I was wondering how those raptors wheels fits width wise.

Thanks!



You can see some pics here in an earlier post - The diameter was more of an issue than the width - remember I had the 17x8.5 rim at +34mm. With that offset the tire was getting close to the upper ball joint but there was clearance. I will prob eventually move to a +15 or +18 offset with a 35x12.50
 

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Well, after waiting 5 years to get my new Expy I finally got my Platinum Max in early October and finally got my Fuel Rebels and Ready Lift 3/2. Down the road I’m going to install at 3” lift once someone comes out with something like Rough Country but with the proper brackets for CCD. Tomorrow I’ll post a pic of it in day light but I was pretty stoked to finally see its profile so I parked it across the street under a light for a better photo. I took a lot of inspo from ExpeditionDrive as I’ve been oggling his rig for what seems a few years. I’m definitely going to have to cut the front of the running boards an inch because of rub when I’m making a tight turn. Other than that it’s working perfectly! Only non suspension issue was they disconnected a bunch of sensors and now I have to get all those sensors reset cuz proximity, downhill, ABS, and a bunch of other stuff is all wacky in regards to settings and alerts now. Anyone else have to deal with that?View attachment 75566
Looks badass. I don't have an answer to your question, but can you share the sizes and offsets you went with?
 

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Quoting my own post with a quick update. This Icon suspension system combined with these tires exceeds expectations. Have had truck on multiple trails in Utah, Colorado and New Mexico. Have had rear wheels in the air and front wheels in the air and traveled washboard roads, rocky hills, deep mud, water, sand, etc. No extreme rock crawling, but this 'Max' version goes everywhere I need it to for basic overlanding.

Handles equally great on the road up to north of 95mph with full load in the vehicle. The adjustability of the dampening is great and offers a wider range of firmness than I expected.

At this point the only thing working against it is the length for short switchbacks, but I never expected 'everything' from it. Very capable even without lockers.

I'd say the only downside I've seen is the springs are a bit soft with a trailer on the vehicle. But the extra length of the 'max' may be playing a role in the sag I see.

MPG over 2100 miles of flat and mountains with varied terrain sits around 16 to 16.5 MPG.

Would 100% buy it all again exactly like this.

Moving out of the country and took this lift off. A friend was going to put it on his Expedition but didn't end up making it work. He's selling the Icon components if anybody is interested. His number is 214-458-0340. About 40k miles on the setup. Super clean. He wants $3k.
 

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Apparently there are some issues disabling the electronic suspension modes on the newer Expeditions? That's a little bit annoying from Ford.
 

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2018 Expedition Limited
Ready Lift 3" Front Lift (I did not install the rear lift)
305/70/17 (33.8" Tall)
KMC Forged KM446 in Machined
17x8.5 w/ 0 Offset (4.75" Backspace)


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Hmm that's a nice setup. I was looking at 295/70/18 which a lot of people are running (34.26" x 11.61") but I wanted to get some 17" rims so 297/70/17 the diameter is smaller (33.26" x 11.61") by almost an inch. The 305/70/17 are (33.81" x 12.01") so its in the middle height wise from 295/70/18 and 295/70/17 and .4" wider.

I see you have the 0 offset rims, when you refer to backspace is that spacers?
 

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Couldn't decide if I wanted to raise my platty or lower. Already have an F-150 with a 6inch lift and 35's. However there wasn't on the market for lowering it, actually nothing. I had sent a few emails to companies asking if something was in the works, either no reply or an response with "No" was received. Until I emailed Belltech and they said they were working on something. No ETA, but it's in the works. So with that I ordered some Vossen HF6-3's in a 24x10 fit for the F-150, wrapped them in Lexani Thirty 305/35 Tires.
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