Good things ARE coming our way from ICON Vehicle Dynamics, or so they say

The only concern I would have is they take into account the different spring rates Expeditions have on the front end vs F-150s. Icon makes good products but it takes quite a bit of R&H to fine tune flogging a 6,000 lb plus vehicle over rough terrain.

While this is true one can take in consideration how similar the F150 and the Expedition front ends are. There is not a motor specific kit for the F150 and you are talking a wide range of weight differences between the 2.7 and the 5.0.
The Expedition will certainly fall within there. Sure it won’t be perfect and I don’t think I would go all high speed PreRunner events or serious rock crawling articulation. But you will certainly be better off than factory.
Not like you are pulling from an F250 or some other completely different platform.
Plus if you spring (haha see what I did there) for the adjustable dampening system you’ll be able to dial it in pretty solid to one’s liking.

Black said:

While this is true one can take in consideration how similar the F150 and the Expedition front ends are. There is not a motor specific kit for the F150 and you are talking a wide range of weight differences between the 2.7 and the 5.0.
The Expedition will certainly fall within there. Sure it won’t be perfect and I don’t think I would go all high speed PreRunner events or serious rock crawling articulation. But you will certainly be better off than factory.
Not like you are pulling from an F250 or some other completely different platform.
Plus if you spring (haha see what I did there) for the adjustable dampening system you’ll be able to dial it in pretty solid to one’s liking.

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Haha I saw that and got a giggle. The F-150 and Expeditions aren’t too far off and curb weight is close enough. I agree the front end isn’t the big difference it’s the rear. We generally run a few hundred pounds more on curb weight than F-150s is all.

JExpedition07 said:

Haha I saw that and got a giggle. The F-150 and Expeditions aren’t too far off and curb weight is close enough. I agree the front end isn’t the big difference it’s the rear. We generally run a few hundred pounds more on curb weight than F-150s is all.

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More like +1000 - 2000 lbs

But pickups are almost 60-40 front heavy.... meanwhile, the Triton V8 Expy is, surprisingly, an almost perfect, bimmerlike 49-51


So the front is all good with shocks and springs for a V8 F150....and the rear is different for a good reason

Adieu said:

Readylift is a spacer. That's fancy talk for what boils down to a bigass washer you stack on top of your struts... alters suspension geometry, leaves you with stock coils and springs

If you meant Rancho quickLIFT.... those are highway coilovers with built in levelling and another inch or so of lift, with quality at the upper end of mediocrity

Neither is a high end product with significant upgrade to practical badassery... well, unless you physically clear an obstacle that would've totalled you at stock ride height, then yeah, practical as all hell

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Yes! Thats what I meant! Rancho QuickLIFT! Thats exactly what I was thinking of. I have the Traxda leveling spacers, even though I havent installed them yet, I do know what those are.

Honestly though, the way you describe the Rancho's makes me want those. Highway ride with leveling and an extra inch sounds awesome.

But I think the traxda's give me a little more bang for my buck while maxing out yet staying within the factory geometry. Believe they're 2.75"/2.25" but some of the docs say they're actually 3"/2". They sold me on their top quality as far as leveling kits go, though there are cheaper kits on ebay that might be just as good or maybe even better. After all that, it sounds like you cant get as much lift with the Ranchos as you can with spacers?

Anyway, haha, sorry to derail the thread. We're talking Icon here not traxda or rancho quicklift. Sounds like the Icon kit will give you as much lift as spacers but with better performance? Thanks for educating me.

You are still stuck with Rancho quality. Better than stock but nothing to write home about. For a highway rig you’ll be fine.

You can always put a spacers on the Ranchos if would would like more lift.

Adieu said:

More like +1000 - 2000 lbs

But pickups are almost 60-40 front heavy.... meanwhile, the Triton V8 Expy is, surprisingly, an almost perfect, bimmerlike 49-51


So the front is all good with shocks and springs for a V8 F150....and the rear is different for a good reason

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I believe our 07-14’ trucks run about 150-200 pounds heavier up front than the 15-17s but that’s nothing on these truck springs. Triton is roughly 550+ pounds dressed where the ecoboost is roughly 450 pounds dressed. Curb weight on my 07’ is 5,805 pounds, the same configuration for 17’ is 5,562 pounds. An 07’ is about 243 pounds heavier than a similarly equipped 2017.....one could assume powertrain is the main weight difference. F-150s vary more obviously. The specs I’ve seen for F-150 is usually 500 pounds lighter than a similar Expedition. I don’t think 2,000 is possible.

Black said:

You are still stuck with Rancho quality. Better than stock but nothing to write home about. For a highway rig you’ll be fine.

You can always put a spacers on the Ranchos if would would like more lift.

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If I added RanchoQL to my 2.75"/2.25" Traxda spacers that would put me up to 4"/3.5" lift, wouldnt that put me outside of the factory suspension/ drive-train geometry? Been reading that 3" lift is the absolute maximum the factory parts can handle.

JExpedition07 said:

I believe our 07-14’ trucks run about 150-200 pounds heavier up front than the 15-17s but that’s nothing on these truck springs. Triton is roughly 550+ pounds dressed where the ecoboost is roughly 450 pounds dressed. Curb weight on my 07’ is 5,805 pounds, the same configuration for 17’ is 5,562 pounds. An 07’ is about 243 pounds heavier than a similarly equipped 2017.....one could assume powertrain is the main weight difference. F-150s vary more obviously. The specs I’ve seen for F-150 is usually 500 pounds lighter than a similar Expedition. I don’t think 2,000 is possible.

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This sounds right to me. Seem to remember that that my '10 King Ranch SWB 4x4 docs said it was 6,000+ lbs though...?

Zero Offset said:

If I added RanchoQL to my 2.75"/2.25" Traxda spacers that would put me up to 4"/3.5" lift, wouldnt that put me outside of the factory suspension/ drive-train geometry? Been reading that 3" lift is the absolute maximum the factory parts can handle.

This sounds right to me. Seem to remember that that my '10 King Ranch SWB 4x4 docs said it was 6,000+ lbs though...?

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3rd gens are like 5500-6200 depending on length, 4x4, and equipment iirc

F-150 2014+, pasted from wikipedia:

• 4,069–4,653 lb (1,846–2,111 kg) (Regular Cab)
• 4,415–5,236 lb (2,003–2,375 kg) (Super Cab)
• 4,529–5,320 lb (2,054–2,413 kg) (SuperCrew)
• 5,525–5,697 lb (2,506–2,584 kg) (Raptor)

4069 lbs would probably be a bare work truck with minimum trim, no options, 4x2, a V6, etc

Zero Offset said:

If I added RanchoQL to my 2.75"/2.25" Traxda spacers that would put me up to 4"/3.5" lift, wouldnt that put me outside of the factory suspension/ drive-train geometry? Been reading that 3" lift is the absolute maximum the factory parts can handle.

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That specific combination likely so.
Though there are a bunch of spacer height options available that coupled with the Ranchos will keep you under 3”