2016 / 2017 Sync 3.4 Success?

[slenser]

HA!

I found out how to take the damn thing out and when I nearly got it apart I reached up underneath the bottom only to realize there was no access to the port. Not sure what I was thinking. Long story short, I got pissed and stuck a screwdriver underneath to force it out.

It worked! LOL! I was ready to have to glue the new hub in, but everything is fine and now I have full Apple Carplay! It's almost like being in a different truck.

Thanks for the help!

 

[LokiWolf]

HA!

I found out how to take the damn thing out and when I nearly got it apart I reached up underneath the bottom only to realize there was no access to the port. Not sure what I was thinking. Long story short, I got pissed and stuck a screwdriver underneath to force it out.

It worked! LOL! I was ready to have to glue the new hub in, but everything is fine and now I have full Apple Carplay! It's almost like being in a different truck.

Thanks for the help!

Nice. That is how I did it in the Edge and several others. Trim tools and 2 flat head screwdrivers. Didn’t care about what was coming out. Looks like is basically what worked for you!


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[chuck s]

If I plug my iPhone into my '17 Expedition it takes over the complete system even though all I want to to is charge the phone.


-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

If I plug my iPhone into my '17 Expedition it takes over the complete system even though all I want to to is charge the phone.


-- Chuck

Do you want CarPlay? If not, you can turn it off in settings.


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[chuck s]

Thanks, I'll have to look in the settings, I have absolutely no use for CarPlay.

-- Chuck

 

[rayjyee1]

Just bought a 2017 Limited last month and read this entire thread. Sync 2.2 is the version currently installed. Looks like Lokiwolf upgraded directly from 2.2 to 3.4 (19274). Should I anticipate any problems jumping up to the latest version? Or just follow CyanLab instructions? FWIW, I think 2.2 works pretty well and is responsive.

 

[chuck s]

You're happy with maps 5 years out of date? When I upgraded from 2.2 to 3.something last year I got more recent maps and some added features -- including the ability to use the navigation feature when driving.

The upgrade from 2.2 to 3.x adds lots of features and 3.4 20136 is the latest version.

I think you can just do the CyanLab upgrade. Just follow the instructions and make a clean USB file. Two USB drives make is more convenient than just one. 32G is what I used.

See my notes in earlier messages. Note this was a clean install for me and there was no saved destinations, etc. in the nav system when done and I had to relink my phone.

Note my map edition below.

-- Chuck

 

[rayjyee1]

Thanks Chuck. I will attempt the upgrade early next week. Since the SUV has not ever been upgraded for years, I wondering by using CyanLab automated method, just one USB drive is all that is needed? No need to downgrade and then upgrade like you did. There sure is a lot of great information here from you, Lokiwolf and CyanLab here! I'm sure there are other 2017s that have never been updated.

 

[LokiWolf]

Thanks Chuck. I will attempt the upgrade early next week. Since the SUV has not ever been upgraded for years, I wondering by using CyanLab automated method, just one USB drive is all that is needed? No need to downgrade and then upgrade like you did. There sure is a lot of great information here from you, Lokiwolf and CyanLab here! I'm sure there are other 2017s that have never been updated.

Yep! Just download the installer from CyanLabs and follow it’s instructions. You have it easy. No downgrade before upgrade.


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[chuck s]

I only had to "downgrade" because I had 3.4.19274 installed -- exact reason is on the CyanLabs instructions. On the download screen when you indicate what Sync version you have the choices are (1) 19274 or or (2) "any other" which you have.

A single 32G USB drive is all you need. The files take up less than 16G but there may need to be some overhead on the drive. For others reading along if you have to go the downgrade/upgrade route a pair of USB drive will work faster as you can download the downgrade and while the car is processing that download the upgrade so it's ready to go as soon as the first one completes. The upgrade part takes maybe 40 minutes

I used the bottom USB port in the console. Tried the upper but nothing happened (or I was too impatient).

Install wants the engine running. So hot here I opened the hood to let all the engine heat vent.

-- Chuck

 

[slenser]

Like Chuck said. There's only 1 USB drive needed now. It takes a few minutes, but once it says to take the flash drive out, you're done!

 

[LokiWolf]

Like Chuck said. There's only 1 USB drive needed now. It takes a few minutes, but once it says to take the flash drive out, you're done!

Only 1 is required if you are below 3.4 19274. If that level or above, 2 is the easier method. The 2nd one can be 2GB if you want, because the downgrade install is an OS load, not Maps also, so it takes MUCH less space.

The reason a larger than 16GB helps, is swap space during the unpacking of the data as part of the install.


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[rayjyee1]

Darn! Tried install this morning, but not successful. Screen went blank and nothing else happen. Using a PNY 32GB USB 3.0 drive. I recall someone earlier saying use a 2.0 vs. 3.0 USB. Maybe I'm was just to impatient and pulled out the USB too early. When it is updating, do you see a screen saying that updating is in progress? One other observation, it took a long time for the autoloader to download files and upload to the USB. Is that normal. Right now all I have is a blank screen. Any suggestions as to next steps?

 

[LokiWolf]

Darn! Tried install this morning, but not successful. Screen went blank and nothing else happen. Using a PNY 32GB USB 3.0 drive. I recall someone earlier saying use a 2.0 vs. 3.0 USB. Maybe I'm was just to impatient and pulled out the USB too early. When it is updating, do you see a screen saying that updating is in progress? One other observation, it took a long time for the autoloader to download files and upload to the USB. Is that normal. Right now all I have is a blank screen. Any suggestions as to next steps?

Yes you will see a status.

When you plugged in the drive and started the Expy, did you get anything? At what point did it go blank and stop? How long before you removed the drive?


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[rayjyee1]

It went blank pretty quick, less than a minute after insertion. Left it in for 10 minutes, it was still blank. I used Cyanlabs 2.10.0 downloader which downloaded 2.1.0.5. I tired restarting/rebooting a couple of time.

 

[chuck s]

It takes about 45 minutes to update the system. 10 minutes ain't enough time.

I started with a newly formatted 32G USB drive and pulled it from the PC when instructed, then plugged it in the lower socket in the center console with the truck already running. Chip was detected and the upgrade started with no intervention from me. Came back 40 minutes later and it was done.

Did you get any screens like this?



-- Chuck

 

[rayjyee1]

Nope. Just went blank and nothing else. That's why I pulled it after 10 minutes. Will retry.

 

[rayjyee1]

I may have messed the thing up. May have to go to dealer to "fix" or undo.

 

[chuck s]

Not sure a Ford Dealer is gonna be real compassionate seeing the CyanLabs upgrade there when they want $150 or more for the upgrade.

Try it again from the beginning with a freshly formatted USB drive in the bottom port inside the console between the seats. (That's what worked for me.) And give it at least 45 minutes with the engine running. Upgrade from 2.x may take longer than we're predicting. As noted I didn't watch the whole install, just let it run while I did other chores and checked periodically. The screen could have been blank a lot, I wasn't there all the time.

On another note: Be certain you have the complete download. As a test earlier this afternoon I took a newly formatted USB drive and did the update download via the CyanLabs software. After only a partial minute my screen changed from the download software page to a file listing of my USB drive showing the download files were there. It was a lie though, just the directories were on the card. The full download from the PC to USB took 53 minutes on my Gigabyte connection so don't interrupt that part of the process either.

-- Chuck

 

[adwmac6]

Ive read this entire thread (and others) a couple of times, and I am confused.

Ive read it will, and it wont, work for me.

I have a 2015 with the older Sync2 (MyFord Touch) with Nav. I know that the usb hub would have to be swapped out to a 2017 Expedition (HC3Z-19A387-B).
But is it as simple as also purchasing and installing a Sync 3 unit out of a 2016+ Expedition, and then updating?