2016 / 2017 Sync 3.4 Success?

[NorthGeorgia]

I have read this thread from beginning to end. Quite an interesting one. I 'used' to be computer literate but being in my 70's now I am not so sure anymore?? With some of the difficulties some of the folks were having admittedly it makes me a tad gun shy. I saw that one needed 3 flash drives ...... then it seemed that one would do.......???? so not sure how many flash drives one needs? I have Sirus/XM road assist(not sure that is the real name) but it warns me of road problems and even will give me 'alternate' route to use/take->this option was included in my purchase of the vehicle in 2017; it's good for 5 years. I am concerned that this CyanLab update might do away with that option? So, I guess if I have some trepidation and concerns I should not attempt? but it does sound intriguing.............

 

[chuck s]

Three 32g flash drives cost me less than $20 back when this started. I figured they'd be one time use for this project. Having and following the instructions made this easy with no glitches. As for Sirus/XM road assist I've no clue if I have it on my '17. I do have Sirus music.

Ford sent out emails last week announcing a $100-$150 upgrade available for the navigation system. Same 0118 maps that are in this one.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

The new/current CyanLabs downloads include the 19 Maps, not 18 now.

3 drives makes it easier. Can be done with one, but lots of deleting and copying.

Go to CyanLabs.net, download the new installer, answer the questions it asks and you will be good to go.

This has zero affect on your Sirius subscriptions including the TravelLink subscription.


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[barrydu4]

Sorry guys, I will not pay for a map update. I have a Garmin with free updates for life. I personally feel this is a better fit for me. I can put the Garmin at eye level instead of having to look down and I can move the Garmin to my Ford F150 easily. Just my opinion.

 

[chuck s]

My Garmin still sits on top of my dashboard despite the presence of the navigation system in my '17. Maps get updated several times a year. When the redundant systems disagree I take the Garmin's route.

But the upgrades are free using the CyanLabs updates.

The CyanLabs software is downloading in the background. Now I gotta figure out how to just update the maps. I'm already on 3.4-19274 with the 0118 maps.

-- Chuck

 

[Chris Alcala]

Loki, is there an advantage to go from 19200 to the latest version? I have a factory APIM from a mustang with 3.4 19200.

also, any insight on using small regions of nav on a non nav unit?

 

[LokiWolf]

My Garmin still sits on top of my dashboard despite the presence of the navigation system in my '17. Maps get updated several times a year. When the redundant systems disagree I take the Garmin's route.

But the upgrades are free using the CyanLabs updates.

The CyanLabs software is downloading in the background. Now I gotta figure out how to just update the maps. I'm already on 3.4-19274 with the 0118 maps.

-- Chuck

Chuck, You can’t. In order to update the Maps you have to do the format step. It has to do with how the Maps are licensed. Since you are running 19274, you have to downgrade to 19200, then run the format tool, then load the newest.


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[LokiWolf]

Loki, is there an advantage to go from 19200 to the latest version? I have a factory APIM from a mustang with 3.4 19200.

also, any insight on using small regions of nav on a non nav unit?

You would get the new Maps(19). Since you are on 19200, you just need format, then newest install.

20136 is stable. At least that I have seen so far.


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[chuck s]

Chuck, You can’t. In order to update the Maps you have to do the format step. It has to do with how the Maps are licensed. Since you are running 19274, you have to downgrade to 19200, then run the format tool, then load the newest.

Thanks.

Looks like a lot of time in a hot truck at 90°F.

1. Download and install 19200.
2. Download and install 20136.

Gotta wait for a cool morning.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

Thanks.

Looks like a lot of time in a hot truck at 90°F.

1. Download and install 19200.
2. Download and install 20136.

Gotta wait for a cool morning.

-- Chuck

True.

I let it run. The downgrade takes 10 minutes. Format 1-2, but the install of 20136 with 19 Maps takes a bit.


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[chuck s]

Is there a separate Reformat step or is it on the USB with the new version?

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

True.

I let it run. The downgrade takes 10 minutes. Format 1-2, but the install of 20136 with 19 Maps takes a bit.


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Should be a separate drive.

 

[chuck s]

Easy peasy. Anyone remotely thinking about this don't worry.

You need one (1) USB card. I used a 32G version. If you have two (2) it's more convenient as it will save some waiting.

Go to CyanLabs.net, download the new installer, run it and follow the prompts. You'll need some information from your Sync system if, like me, you did this last Fall or this Spring as the latest version from that upgrade won't work so you need to "down grade" first, then "up grade" with the latest version.

1. Install the down grade on the USB drive. Take it to the truck and with the engine running insert it in the USB port inside the glove compartment. Bottom port worked for me. Watch for the display of "Upgrading System" or similar on the panel. Come back in 15 minutes and wait a couple for the "Remove USB drive" prompt.

2. While waiting for #1 to install go back to the CyanLabs software that's probably still on your PC screen and down load the revision you want. Select 0119 maps, the latest. Install this on a second 32G USB drive and when this is done go back to the truck where the first install should be done.

You can reuse the first USB drive, just less convenient.

No separate Reformat, that's all in the second download.

I turned the truck Off and then back on, then inserted the new update USB drive. This takes nearly 40 minutes. Done.

If you've never done this just go to step 2.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

Easy peasy. Anyone remotely thinking about this don't worry.

You need one (1) USB card. I used a 32G version. If you have two (2) it's more convenient as it will save some waiting.

Go to CyanLabs.net, download the new installer, run it and follow the prompts. You'll need some information from your Sync system if, like me, you did this last Fall or this Spring as the latest version from that upgrade won't work so you need to "down grade" first, then "up grade" with the latest version.

1. Install the down grade on the USB drive. Take it to the truck and with the engine running insert it in the USB port inside the glove compartment. Bottom port worked for me. Watch for the display of "Upgrading System" or similar on the panel. Come back in 15 minutes and wait a couple for the "Remove USB drive" prompt.

2. While waiting for #1 to install go back to the CyanLabs software that's probably still on your PC screen and down load the revision you want. Select 0119 maps, the latest. Install this on a second 32G USB drive and when this is done go back to the truck where the first install should be done.

You can reuse the first USB drive, just less convenient.

No separate Reformat, that's all in the second download.

I turned the truck Off and then back on, then inserted the new update USB drive. This takes nearly 40 minutes. Done.

If you've never done this just go to step 2.

-- Chuck

Nice!

Glad they combined the format step! Good stuff!

 

[chuck s]

Like the last upgrade it's a "clean" install meaning not even my iPhone would work until I relinked it and any and all navigation data was erased so I'll have to find my favorite burger place from memory for a while.

-- Chuck

 

[slenser]

I have a 2016 XLT. I've seen some people have to upgrade their USB hub in the center console to get Apple Carplay to work with Sync 3 version 3. Do I still need to do this with 3.4? I bought it today, not knowing there was an even newer update and if I don't need to upgrade this part, I'll take it back before I open it. Once you open, you can't return.

 

[LokiWolf]

I have a 2016 XLT. I've seen some people have to upgrade their USB hub in the center console to get Apple Carplay to work with Sync 3 version 3. Do I still need to do this with 3.4? I bought it today, not knowing there was an even newer update and if I don't need to upgrade this part, I'll take it back before I open it. Once you open, you can't return.

If you have a 2016, you will need the newer Hub for CarPlay to work period under most circumstances.

What version of Sync do you have now, and does Carplay work?

 

[slenser]

I have 3.0 I believe. I just started downloading the files onto my usb drive for the 3.4 version. Sync does not currently work, but 3.0 did alleviate some of the issues I was previously having.

It used to give me some "This device is not compatible with Sync blah blah blah" error every time I plugged in my phone. Then it was crash Waze when plugged in to the USB port too. At least that's fixed.

I originally came here to find a How-To on removing my hub. It seems they did things a little different with the Expeditions than other models. Looks like I have to remove the damn center console to get to the tabs to release it from it's spot.


Edit: I figured out the version. Probably confusing what I was saying. My thought was that since it was Sync 3 and I got the 3.0 update (I didn't look at it nor remember exactly), that it must have been version 3.3...I've corrected it to the correct 3.0.

 

[LokiWolf]

I have 3.3 I believe. I just started downloading the files onto my usb drive for the 3.4 version. Sync does not currently work, but 3.3 did alleviate some of the issues I was previously having.

It used to give me some "This device is not compatible with Sync blah blah blah" error every time I plugged in my phone. Then it was crash Waze when plugged in to the USB port too. At least that's fixed.

I originally came here to find a How-To on removing my hub. It seems they did things a little different with the Expeditions than other models. Looks like I have to remove the damn center console to get to the tabs to release it from it's spot.

Yeah, Not sure on the install. I had a 17 Ex, now a 2020. My Edge was a 16, so had to swap that one. Helped several others do theirs.

Yes, based on those messages, you need to swap it for CarPlay. The older hubs will actually pop a message in 3.4 about being unsupported, so need to anyway.

Good luck on getting it swapped.


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[slenser]

So I just tried to update after using their app...No luck.

It detected the USB device, then said it was indexing it. Then it did nothing. Usually it will say "Updating"

It took a long time for the files to download on my usb drive too. I'll have to do some digging.

Edit:
The USB drive was empty! Not sure why, other than it was really cheap. My other one seems to be working. I used it to update the truck to 3.3 yesterday and I can see files are being saved to it currently. Here's to hoping! I'll update again if it works.

Still looking for a good how-to on taking that center console apart.