2022 Max payload numbers

[coyotemojo]

Hi all, looking to custom order an Expy Max best equipped to tow a 6k lbs trailer with tongue weight of around 750lbs.

Trying to figure out estimated payloads for different configurations. Does anyone know how to get max payload in a 2022? Is it xlt max tow with no pano and captains 2nd row? Or does limited with heavy duty independent suspension possibly have higher payload capacity?

 

[StephenPT]

The lower the trim level and the less options you have will increase your payload. Somewhere on this forum is a spreadsheet members with their payload numbers and their trim level + options...

 

[StephenPT]

Tons of payload info in this thread - spreadsheet link is in post #88 https://www.expeditionforum.com/threads/can-we-talk-hd-tow-one-more-time.44864/

 

[coyotemojo]

I definitely read through that whole thread. Just didn't see any 2022 models. Is there no difference between a 2019 and a 2022 model?

 

[AJ82]

The 2022's are just getting to dealer lots and some lucky folks. So there isn't going to be lots of payload data on them yet. I'd expect the payloads to be similar to previous model years but won't know that until some people can post their payload stickers.

As for towing, the Ford towing guide states that the non-HD tow are limited to 6,000 lbs towing and 600 lbs tongue weight (except for the 4X2 Max which is 6,300 and 630). If you want more you need the HD tow package. Now could it do more, perhaps but that isn't Ford's line.

 

[coyotemojo]

I'm definitely decided on the max with HD tow package. It's the payload number I'm most concerned about, since we're a family of 5 (700lbs and growing) plus a trailer that is around 750lbs tongue weight when loaded. In that great thread on payload I saw some configurations have over 1900 lbs payload which would be amazing.

It feels like flying blind trying to order a vehicle for a specific purpose but not being able to know the specs for that vehicle. And I've literally had multiple sales folks tell me it doesn't matter or otherwise show they have no idea what I'm talking about.

 

[AJ82]

I'm definitely decided on the max with HD tow package. It's the payload number I'm most concerned about, since we're a family of 5 (700lbs and growing) plus a trailer that is around 750lbs tongue weight when loaded. In that great thread on payload I saw some configurations have over 1900 lbs payload which would be amazing.

It feels like flying blind trying to order a vehicle for a specific purpose but not being able to know the specs for that vehicle. And I've literally had multiple sales folks tell me it doesn't matter or otherwise show they have no idea what I'm talking about.

It's good to see you doing the research. Most people don't and just believe the salesman or just focus on the max towing number. As you know payload is king!

 

[Happy Dog]

Our ‘20 with the heavy duty tow package. It has a payload of 1,716#. We have 400# of people/dogs, 800# tongue weight,100# of stuff. The payload is our limiting factor and will likely be yours as well.
Only carry things in the car that you really need while driving
The rest goes in the trailer.

 

[fothco]

I understand that the Ford Chart on Heavy duty Towing etc shows the 2 rear end // diff options . 1 is for 9000 lbs .

 

[JasonH]

Hi all, looking to custom order an Expy Max best equipped to tow a 6k lbs trailer with tongue weight of around 750lbs.

Trying to figure out estimated payloads for different configurations. Does anyone know how to get max payload in a 2022? Is it xlt max tow with no pano and captains 2nd row? Or does

Generally the less equipment you have, the higher the payload. It's hard to get a good sense of how various options will impact payload, but the Google sheet is a very good start. Another option might be to visit dealerships that have vehicles with configurations you're considering in stock and checking the door stickers. Good luck with the configuration.

 

[Fasttimes]

The highest payload you'll get will be the lowest optioned/trim Max model w/HD tow you're comfortable getting and able to delete the sunroof.

 

[coyotemojo]

Just for future reference, we received our Expedition this week. It's a 2022 XLT 4x4, with heavy duty trailer tow package and control trac 3.73 edls. Thanks to info in this forum, I picked captain's chairs for the second row and no panoramic sun roof to maximize payload.
According to the door sticker we're good for 1974lbs.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Just for future reference, we received our Expedition this week. It's a 2022 XLT 4x4, with heavy duty trailer tow package and control trac 3.73 edls. Thanks to info in this forum, I picked captain's chairs for the second row and no panoramic sun roof to maximize payload.
According to the door sticker we're good for 1974lbs.

WOW! That is impressive. You should update the spreadsheet with your data. I think there are three 2022 models on it and you would have the highest. Mine is 1662 and the others are in the 1700s.

 

[USKflt]

WOW! That is impressive. You should update the spreadsheet with your data. I think there are three 2022 models on it and you would have the highest. Mine is 1662 and the others are in the 1700s.

I have a 303A MAX 4x4 with HD tow, eLSD, CCD and cargo. So pretty well fully optioned. Payload is around 1,650 lbs. I was actually very impressed. Better than my F-150.

 

[aryantes]

I have a 303A MAX 4x4 with HD tow, eLSD, CCD and cargo. So pretty well fully optioned. Payload is around 1,650 lbs. I was actually very impressed. Better than my F-150.

Very nice! This is the configuration I'm getting as well. Are you 7 or 8 seater?

Can you update your stats on the google sheet?

4th Gen Expy Payload

docs.google.com

 

[Knut]

2019 Exp. Max HD tow. 1798 Lbs payload.
Same "boat' when towing. We are 2 Adults, 3 kids, and 2 dogs. So a truck is not an option... :-(
My hardest #s to meet are Payload 1798 and Rear Axle limit 4380.

 

[jrhunt]

I'm definitely decided on the max with HD tow package. It's the payload number I'm most concerned about, since we're a family of 5 (700lbs and growing) plus a trailer that is around 750lbs tongue weight when loaded. In that great thread on payload I saw some configurations have over 1900 lbs payload which would be amazing.

It feels like flying blind trying to order a vehicle for a specific purpose but not being able to know the specs for that vehicle. And I've literally had multiple sales folks tell me it doesn't matter or otherwise show they have no idea what I'm talking about.

I feel you. I’m in the process of ordering the Limited Stealth Performance Package with HD tow package. Searching car apps and the internet for days for payload sticker. This is what I found at a ford dealer. Can anyone confirm if 1599 lbs payload is correct for this particular package? Will definitely consider removing the Stealth Performance Package if I gain 200lbs of payload.

 

[USKflt]

I have a 303A MAX 4x4 with HD tow, eLSD, CCD and cargo. So pretty well fully optioned. Payload is around 1,650 lbs. I was actually very impressed. Better than my F-150.

Just realized I had a typo on mine. It’s actually 1,750, not 1,650.

 

[sdinwiddie85]

I feel you. I’m in the process of ordering the Limited Stealth Performance Package with HD tow package. Searching car apps and the internet for days for payload sticker. This is what I found at a ford dealer. Can anyone confirm if 1599 lbs payloadView attachment 74904 is correct for this particular package? Will definitely consider removing the Stealth Performance Package if I gain 200lbs of payload.

My 22 with stealth performance has payload of 1721 and mine is pretty much fully optioned with second row buckets

 

[jrhunt]

Very nice! This is the configuration I'm getting as well. Are you 7 or 8 seater?

Can you update your stats on the google sheet?

4th Gen Expy Payload

docs.google.com

My 22 with stealth performance has payload of 1721 and mine is pretty much fully optioned with second row bucketsView attachment 74905

My 22 with stealth performance has payload of 1721 and mine is pretty much fully optioned with second row bucketsView attachment 74905

Thank you a ton. This is great, an extra 120 lbs of cushion I was t expecting. Interesting how much more your GVWR is a compared to what I found online.