Discussion in 'Engine & Performance' started by 11b4v, Jun 5, 2018.
Look up the set I suggested on my post. It’s OEM and cloys combo.
I used a Cloyes timing chain set, Motorcraft steel ratcheting tensioners from the earlier 2 valve engine, Motorcraft phasers and a Melling oil pump. That was 3 years ago and it purrs like a kitten.
I used Cloyes timing components and a Melling oil pump. It's been two years now and no problems. Locked out the phasers too.
Last year I used a Cloyes set on my wife’s Buick. Chain stretched within a year.
Spoke with my local mechanic - only one I trust, lets me provide my own parts, doesn’t fix more than I need, etc - and he reported that Cloyes used to be quality, but that has really diminished over the last 2-3 years.
I’d stay OEM on this one.
Cloyes certainly use to be as good as you would even need, usually better.
Now, a lot of brands---I'm talking to you MOOG--- are not what they used to be.
Made in China by someone this year and who knows next.
The quality control usually consists of "Yep, that's a timing chain"
He's not talking a cloned part from autozone... Cloyes make timing chains they claim to meet or beat OEM spec & quality. does anyone know? Price is about the same vs FoMoCo parts.
Just to bring some more life into this thread.
I have a full Melling 3-391SCC kit. It comes with ratcheting cast iron tensioners so there is no longer any possibility for them to blow a seal, or get slack. Ratcheting tensioners are fine for this application. They are only an issue on high HP manual transmissions where the chain can whip with aggressive gear changes.
I paired that kit with a Melling 360HV high volume pump.
Looking at all of the Melling parts compared to the originals that came off. I would go with the Motorcraft (Ford OEM) everything, but get the Melling cast tensioners. The Ford chain looks a lot stronger than the Melling ones. The guides were identical, but I still prefer OEM.
I did install the complete Melling kit however and have not had a single issue to report.
I have used Cloyes in other engines without issues.
I'm curious about the cast iron tensioners. I've got a 2010 5.4 3V and will be doing the timing job in the spring. Those tensioners don't have a gasket? They fit the 3V engine with no problems? Thanks!
You are correct, they do not have a gasket, I did put a little permatex gasket maker (dead old mechanics) on there as a just in case. They fit my 2009 just fine.
Separate names with a comma.