Bilstein 5100 Lift Install

[DWs-TTEB]

Max height on F and R?

there's your answer below. Matt posted it a few posts above your question.

 

[DWs-TTEB]

I installed my Bilsteins yesterday. I went with the top setting on the front (+1.6") and the 2nd to top setting on the back (+1.1"). This gave me a net lift in the front of 0.5" which exactly what I needed to get it leveled. I am measuring level from the top of my tire to the bottom of the fender well.

Obviously, if you want more rake you could set the rears to the top setting which is +1.5".

Right now I still have my stock tires (275/55/20). I will be installing 275/60/20s at the end of the week.





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[Expedition Dave]

Do they rears really pull forward, or is it the optical illusion caused by there being a much bigger gap at the top vs the front, after the lift?

I have not measured, but it has come up here before.

A lot of guys with the 3/2 and 34/35s notice it prominently in pics, and it does look wonky.

Correction^ 3/4/21^I believe it is the direct byproduct of the rear suspension moves downward, the driveshaft has to swing down with it from the end of the transmission, and as such the rear diff droops forward 'cuz the driveshaft can't stretch--so must move forward to maintain even pressure.

While rare---I think I am still right but for the wrong reasons--lol. Isn't the rear differential fixed, and the independent arms responsible for up/down? So the DS has nothing to do with range of motion^^

Either way, I think it is near impossible to run 37s with a 2+ inch rear lift w/o serious removal of portions of rear fender....

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Here is the before and after shots where you cen see the differnce of the rear wheel placement. I think it is a combination of both.

This is a ReadyLift, not Bilstein lift. Also, tires are 34” not 35”. Stock tires were 32”.




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[wakeboarder]

I have not measured, but it has come up here before.

A lot of guys with the 3/2 and 34/35s notice it prominently in pics, and it does look wonky.

I believe it is the direct byproduct of the rear suspension moves downward, the driveshaft has to swing down with it from the end of the transmission, and as such the rear diff droops forward 'cuz the driveshaft can't stretch--so must move forward to maintain even pressure.

Either way, I think it is near impossible to run 37s with a 2+ inch rear lift w/o serious removal of portions of rear fender....

With IRS, the rear differential is fixed in location. The picture below was taken from in front of the rear axle. The bar with the red arrow pointing at it will pull the wheel forward as the wheel goes down.

 

[Matt Garrett]

275/60/20s installed on my Bilstein Lifted Expy with stock Limited wheels. My Bilsteins are adjusted to +1.6" lift in the front and +1.1" in the rear. No issues with this tire size at all.

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[JimW]

Looks great Matt!

 

[Matt Garrett]

A few with a more straight on view. I love the look but do think it would look even better with a small 0.25-0.50" spacer.

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[Fozzy]

Are those the AT III’s? If so how do you like them?


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[Expedition Dave]

We ran into a snag up front. Working on it.

 

[Shaffer9]

We finally knocked out the Bilstein install this weekend. Expy rears and f150 4wd fronts.... I am convinced our factory shocks were blown after feeling the ride improvement with these. Will definitely be going some new wheels in the future to get the right stance.

 

[Expedition Dave]

NICE!! Did you measure before and after?

 

[Shaffer9]

Nope...I thought I made the comment that I didn't even come close to your documentation

 

[Expedition Dave]

LOL well I missed a few! Today I am measuring center of wheel hub to top of fender, the real indicator of "lift" that eliminates the tire factor. Or you can even measure top of fender from the ground just for an overall.

I'd like to know if you got 3 inches of front lift to why I only have 2 after you drive it for 5-10 miles. After maybe 50 miles mine is still at 39/39.25 F-R.

 

[Shaffer9]

Top of wheel wells: 39.25" in the front and 38.5" in the rear.. the body lines and running boards both measure out with 1 " rake from back to front(back higher)

 

[Elcid]

Trucks look great guys. Appreciate you sharing the details. I'm considering these 5100's as well but also curious if the 2wd 150 5100's would yield an inch less give their specs. Doesn't seem that anyone has actually tried this out yet only speculation based on paper measurements.

 

[APExpo]

Got my expedition 5100’s installed today. Top setting in the front (~1.6”) middle setting in the rear (~.7”). Levels it out a little but still keeps some rake which I’m fine with. 285/70r18 ridge grapplers on factory fx4 rims. Top pic is before, bottom after.

 

[Expedition Dave]

I measured mine from the center of the hub to the top of the fender (the true indicator of lift eliminating the increase in tire size) and got:

23.0 inches front, 23.25 rear-- truck empty, full tank of fuel.This measurement should be close when measuring apples to apples (Exes to Exes).

Still not quite sure how I only gained 2 inches on the bottom rung of the F150s when everyone else seems to see 2.70-3.00 inches? Did you all measure before driving it or something lol?

 

[sanman28]

Nice

We finally knocked out the Bilstein install this weekend. Expy rears and f150 4wd fronts.... I am convinced our factory shocks were blown after feeling the ride improvement with these. Will definitely be going some new wheels in the future to get the right stance.View attachment 41159

 

[DWs-TTEB]

I received half of my bilstein order (rear shocks) that I placed on Jan 5, 2021, should I wait to install them when I receive the front struts in 2 weeks? Will it be an issue to have OEM in the front & bilstein in the rear?

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