Can we talk HD Tow one more time?

[Lou Hamilton]

1553 on mine.

2019 Limited Stealth w/ HD Tow (303a package), convenience package, captain’s chairs, 22” wheels




Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[wakeboarder]

2019 Max XLT 2wd, sunroof, hd tow, 2nd row bench, 20 inch rims, FA 3300, RA 4380, 1613 payload

 

[flying68]

I’ll start a spread sheet of info once I get back home, we’re camping now. Perhaps we can narrow down what the unicorn of Payload is

Still never got the answer to my last question though!! Do FX4 NON HD tow have HD springs or “lighter” springs? Hard to dig deep here on my phone.

Already taken care of. Here is what I have based on this thread:
Year Trim Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1553 7450 3375 4380 Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 8 1482 7450 3375 4380 Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1647 7720 3550 4380 byathread
2019 Limited 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 8 1629 7720 3550 4380 BLUWAGN
2019 Limited 132 Yes No No Yes 22 _ 1619 7720 3550 4380 GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1487 7450 3375 4380 Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No Yes ___ 22 7 1537 7450 3375 4380 Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1585 7720 3550 4380 Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT 132 No No Yes Yes 20 8 1613 7400 3300 4380 wakeboarder
2018 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes Yes 18 8 1671 7720 3550 4380 shane_th_ee
2019 XLT 132 Yes No Yes No 20 8 1767 7720 3550 4380 Joey Smith
2019 XLT 132 Yes No No Yes 18 8 1676 7720 3550 4380 DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes No 18 7 1905 7720 3550 4380 sanman28

Please look this over and fill in any missing information or correct the information that is there. We don't nearly have a big enough sample size to make any definitive conclusion on what contributes what.

 

[Expedition Dave]

Expedition Dave - how do you have the HD tow package with no brake controller or fancy knob? That’s part of the package right?

I do have them.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

Already taken care of. Here is what I have based on this thread:
Year Trim Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1553 7450 3375 4380 Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 8 1482 7450 3375 4380 Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1647 7720 3550 4380 byathread
2019 Limited 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 8 1629 7720 3550 4380 BLUWAGN
2019 Limited 132 Yes No No Yes 22 _ 1619 7720 3550 4380 GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1487 7450 3375 4380 Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No Yes ___ 22 7 1537 7450 3375 4380 Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No Yes Yes 22 7 1585 7720 3550 4380 Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT 132 No No Yes Yes 20 8 1613 7400 3300 4380 wakeboarder
2018 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes Yes 18 8 1671 7720 3550 4380 shane_th_ee
2019 XLT 132 Yes No Yes No 20 8 1767 7720 3550 4380 Joey Smith
2019 XLT 132 Yes No No Yes 18 8 1676 7720 3550 4380 DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes No 18 7 1905 7720 3550 4380 sanman28

Please look this over and fill in any missing information or correct the information that is there. We don't nearly have a big enough sample size to make any definitive conclusion on what contributes what.

Not sure if CCD adds weight, but my Limited has CCD. Are the limited that have the higher payload have CCD is standard suspension?

Just a thought because mine seems to be closer to the Platinum trims. Basically mine is a platinum minus the massage seats and 25 extra HP.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[flying68]

Not sure if CCD adds weight, but my Limited has CCD. Are the limited that have the higher payload have CCD is standard suspension?

Just a thought because mine seems to be closer to the Platinum trims. Basically mine is a platinum minus the massage seats and 25 extra HP.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

Possible, we just don't have enough data yet to determine what adds/subtracts significant vehicle weight. There are probably enough production variances that we would have to sample a couple hundred to know.

 

[byathread]

Not sure if CCD adds weight, but my Limited has CCD. Are the limited that have the higher payload have CCD is standard suspension?

Just a thought because mine seems to be closer to the Platinum trims. Basically mine is a platinum minus the massage seats and 25 extra HP.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

A rule seems to be 22 rim = CCD unless Canada bound...I think. I rented a limited max up in Mississauga that had 20" rim with the wire/CCD. That was my first rental and had me believing all limited trim got the CCD, but, must be a Canada build difference. Wish I took photos of the 3 rental stickers to contribute to this dataset!

123s only ones to have the lower front GAWR from what I see.

That 1905 payload is amazing. I think a similar spec non fx4 7 seater without sunroof might have a little more ~ 50 lbs or so... Keep those door stickers coming!

Also, saw that someone blacked out their VIN. I didn't think to, but am genuinely curious as to why? I see folks do it on licence plates, too... Any ideas?

 

[wakeboarder]

A rule seems to be 22 rim = CCD unless Canada bound...I think. I rented a limited max up in Mississauga that had 20" rim with the wire/CCD. That was my first rental and had me believing all limited trim got the CCD, but, must be a Canada build difference. Wish I took photos of the 3 rental stickers to contribute to this dataset!

123s only ones to have the lower front GAWR from what I see.

That 1905 payload is amazing. I think a similar spec non fx4 7 seater without sunroof might have a little more ~ 50 lbs or so... Keep those door stickers coming!

Also, saw that someone blacked out their VIN. I didn't think to, but am genuinely curious as to why? I see folks do it on licence plates, too... Any ideas?

I blacked it because it is commonly done with license plates on google maps, etc. I guess I'm just a little cautious online.

The lightest front GAWR is mine which is the only 2wd on the list. I would expect the 2wd 123 wb's to be even less.

Has anybody actually completely unloaded their vehicle, filled it with fuel and taken it to the scales to check the accuracy of the sticker?

 

[Jason Bell]

I don’t think anyone posted this number yet . . . 2019 MAX XL (1 trim below XLT) 4x4 with tow package. No sunroof or other options. I’ve spent the last two weeks moving locally with a 20 foot enclosed trailer. No idea of the total weight, but very impressed with the way this vehicle tows.

 

[Bruce Baelz]

2018 Max FX4 with HD tow package and panoramic sunroof:
View attachment 37834

I’ve never weighed it without wife/4 kids+car seats/gear/WDH installed (used 3-pass method to confirm hitch setup). But the weight was significantly lower than what I estimated.

Also, we considered getting the FX4 and having the dealer install the brake controller. The dealer quoted ~$500.

I have not checked the part number on my springs yet. Wait! I bet I can use parts.ford.com... be right back...

Have you installed your brake controller yet?? Reason I ask is, I have a CURT wireless that I'm looking to sell that I only used once (bought a trailer with EOH and needed it, 2 weeks later purchased a new truck that had a controller already). Plug and play, no wiring required and it worked great. Let me know, I spent $180.00 on it.