Can we talk HD Tow one more time?
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wakeboarder
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These high FX4 numbers just don’t seem correct. Here is my theory.
1. They don’t weigh the trucks to determine the payload.
2. They use the Bill of Material to calculate the weight.
3. An engineer made a mistake and either entered 0 lbs for the skid plates or put them in as a negative number.
I think it would be interesting for an FX4 and a similarly equipped 4x4 to compare curb weights (no cargo, no driver, & full tank) from a truck scale.
1. They don’t weigh the trucks to determine the payload.
2. They use the Bill of Material to calculate the weight.
3. An engineer made a mistake and either entered 0 lbs for the skid plates or put them in as a negative number.
I think it would be interesting for an FX4 and a similarly equipped 4x4 to compare curb weights (no cargo, no driver, & full tank) from a truck scale.
Expedition Dave
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If I had to guess (not been under an FX4 yet) the FX4 skid plate package is probably on the "flimsy" side compared to the body armor available on the aftermarket, or compared to say the Dodge Power Wagon (interesting they don't armor the trans pan on it).
Lukewang01
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Can confirm. There's not a lot of plate down there, it's even slotted.
duneslider
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I would also guess a lot of the plates are aluminum? So, not much weight at all?
grumpyoleman
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Here is mine;
2018 XLT Max 202a pkg 4wd,
No FX4, HD Tow or Pano,
seats 8,
18" wheels,
Payload = 1666,
GVWR 7600,
Front = 3550,
rear = 4200.
2018 XLT Max 202a pkg 4wd,
No FX4, HD Tow or Pano,
seats 8,
18" wheels,
Payload = 1666,
GVWR 7600,
Front = 3550,
rear = 4200.
rx7gslse
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FX4 also has the HD radiator... that's likely heavier than the skid plates, but could increase cooling capacity?
however, that will come with 18" wheels, w/o power running boards, usually without the pano roof and a whole bunch of other stuff that is heavy... I bet the wheels and tires are a big factor?
wakeboarder
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Mine is 1613 lbs. 55 lbs delta. The only significant difference appears to be the bench seat vs captains chairs. I also have 20 inch wheels.
Trey Salsbury
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That boat really weighs 7100lbs? what size is it? It looks like it would be around 5000ish
Yeah, it's heavier than it looks. Boat w/fuel is ~5,200, trailer 1,500, then two sets of scuba gear/tanks, tubes, inflatables gets you right to 7,100. I was surprised when we scaled it full; overall length 25'6"
hughes022
Member
I've got another 4x2 to add to the mix. Nearly identical as a previous poster, but he had a 4x4, same options, so there's the difference in the FA #. I also noticed a few errors on the previous lists that have some Rears at the 4380 and should be 4200, as mine is.
2019 XLT, MAX, 202A, 4x2. Non-HD tow. has Pano-Sunroof. Seats 8. 18" wheels.
Front = 3300
Rear = 4200
GVWR = 7350
Payload = 1685
2019 XLT, MAX, 202A, 4x2. Non-HD tow. has Pano-Sunroof. Seats 8. 18" wheels.
Front = 3300
Rear = 4200
GVWR = 7350
Payload = 1685
flying68
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Which ones are in error and did you go back to find the post that contained the information?
hughes022
Member
I believe they've been corrected, as I just tried to go back and search. I have not looked at the google doc page yet, just the text version that was on here. Basically any NON-HD tow and NON-4x4 will have the 4200# rear, that was the only issue I had seen a couple pages back.
Brandon182
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Is this the highest payload you’ve seen on an expedition? It’s a 20 xlt max 4x4 had tow
byathread
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https://www.expeditionforum.com/index.php?posts/409408
1928# on the xl max special order... [emoji106]
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