Can we talk HD Tow one more time?

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Year Trim  Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1553    7450 3375  4380  Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1482    7450 3375  4380  Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1647    7720 3550  4380  byathread
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1629    7720 3550  4380  BLUWAGN
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  No    Yes    22  _    1619    7720 3550  4380  GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1487    7450 3375  4380  Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   ___    22  7    1537    7450 3375  4380  Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1585    7720 3550  4380  Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT      132 No  No  Yes   Yes    20  8    1613    7400 3300  4380  wakeboarder
2018 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   Yes    18  8    1671    7720 3550  4380  shane_th_ee
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  Yes   No     20  8    1767    7720 3550  4380  Joey Smith
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  No    Yes    18  8    1676    7720 3550  4380  DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  7    1905    7720 3550  4380  sanman28
2018 XLT      123 Yes No  Yes   No     18  8    1633    7450 3375  4380  Meeker
 

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Year Trim  Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1553    7450 3375  4380  Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1482    7450 3375  4380  Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1647    7720 3550  4380  byathread
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1629    7720 3550  4380  BLUWAGN
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  No    Yes    22  _    1619    7720 3550  4380  GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1487    7450 3375  4380  Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   ___    22  7    1537    7450 3375  4380  Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1585    7720 3550  4380  Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT      132 No  No  Yes   Yes    20  8    1613    7400 3300  4380  wakeboarder
2018 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   Yes    18  8    1671    7720 3550  4380  shane_th_ee
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  Yes   No     20  8    1767    7720 3550  4380  Joey Smith
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  No    Yes    18  8    1676    7720 3550  4380  DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  7    1905    7720 3550  4380  sanman28
2018 XLT      123 Yes No  Yes   No     18  8    1633    7450 3375  4380  Meeker

Cool, I win! Count on me to carry the most kids or fat chicks i guess.
 

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Cool, I win! Count on me to carry the most kids or fat chicks i guess.
I'm still holding out for your exact rig but without fx4 being the payload unicorn! [emoji12]
Wonder how much those skid plates weigh? [emoji848]
 

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Here's one more for the chart. 2018 Limited MAX, 4x4, not FX4, HD tow, pano roof, 20" wheels (non-CCD), 7-seater.
Payload: 1644
GWVR: 7720
FGAWR: 3550
RGAWR: 4380
 
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I'm still holding out for your exact rig but without fx4 being the payload unicorn! [emoji12]
Wonder how much those skid plates weigh? [emoji848]


I'd bet so.. MAX, HD-TOW, NO FX4, 2nd row buckets, no Sunroof, on 18's

@sanman28 - since your the winner, do you have standard XLT or do you have some of the other option packages like the 201A, 202A, cargo Etc. I'd take your rig in a heart beat! It's actually what I'm looking to buy, minus FX4
 

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Huh it's pretty clear that GVWR = 7720 for Max 4x4, 7450 for Std length4x4. Wakeboarder's outlier is our only 4x2 so we'd need more entries to confirm that one.

But Payload doesn't seem to correlate with anything else on that list... there's only 3 2020s and they are all over the place. Seriously it looks like either they just randomly generate the payload, or they're weighing the vehicle with a scale that has +/- 100 lbs accuracy.
 

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Year Trim  Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1553    7450 3375  4380  Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1482    7450 3375  4380  Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1647    7720 3550  4380  byathread
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1629    7720 3550  4380  BLUWAGN
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  No    Yes    22  _    1619    7720 3550  4380  GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1487    7450 3375  4380  Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   ___    22  7    1537    7450 3375  4380  Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1585    7720 3550  4380  Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT      132 No  No  Yes   Yes    20  8    1613    7400 3300  4380  wakeboarder
2018 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   Yes    18  8    1671    7720 3550  4380  shane_th_ee
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  Yes   No     20  8    1767    7720 3550  4380  Joey Smith
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  No    Yes    18  8    1676    7720 3550  4380  DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  7    1905    7720 3550  4380  sanman28
2018 XLT      123 Yes No  Yes   No     18  8    1633    7450 3375  4380  Meeker
2018 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1644    7720 3550  4380  Squark
2018 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1542    7450 3375  4380  Rx7gslse
 

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I’m finding it fascinating that the 4x4 Max has the most payload. Traditional wisdom says get the 2wd short wheel base because the extra length and drive train bits add weight. And yet those bits seem to bring beefed up front axles which more than offset the increased weight.
 

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Looks like the biggest determinant to payload is trim level and wheelbase. XLT Max nice, platinum 123" bah humbug. Somewhat mirrors ford restricting f150 high payload package to XLT trim only.

The 4x4 max scoring so well overall is a surprise.

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I'd bet so.. MAX, HD-TOW, NO FX4, 2nd row buckets, no Sunroof, on 18's

@sanman28 - since your the winner, do you have standard XLT or do you have some of the other option packages like the 201A, 202A, cargo Etc. I'd take your rig in a heart beat! It's actually what I'm looking to buy, minus FX4


Thanks. XLT, Max, FX4, 201A, tow, 2nd row bucket, DVD, floor and cargo liners, magnetic over stone active x......thats it.
3/2 lift, 295/70's on 1/4 spaced powder coated raptor wheels. No front air dam. All DD LED's, start/stop eliminator, tint, and the usual FORSCAN stuff. Doing a black wrap of all chrome and gray this weekend. Ill get a tune soon enough also.

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Thanks. XLT, Max, FX4, 201A, tow, 2nd row bucket, DVD, floor and cargo liners, magnetic over stone active x......thats it.
3/2 lift, 295/70's on 1/4 spaced powder coated raptor wheels. No front air dam. All DD LED's, start/stop eliminator, tint, and the usual FORSCAN stuff. Doing a black wrap of all chrome and gray this weekend. Ill get a tune soon enough also.

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Nice rig! [emoji106] Post up some more photos after you murder it out... [emoji41]
 

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My build is the same as Sanman28 but I have the 8 seater so my payload is reduced by 50lbs compared to his. I have the base XLT with the only added option being the HD tow package. Payload is 1855.
 

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Year Trim  Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1553    7450 3375  4380  Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1482    7450 3375  4380  Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1647    7720 3550  4380  byathread
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1629    7720 3550  4380  BLUWAGN
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  No    Yes    22  _    1619    7720 3550  4380  GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1487    7450 3375  4380  Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   ___    22  7    1537    7450 3375  4380  Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1585    7720 3550  4380  Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT      132 No  No  Yes   Yes    20  8    1613    7400 3300  4380  wakeboarder
2018 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   Yes    18  8    1671    7720 3550  4380  shane_th_ee
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  Yes   No     20  8    1767    7720 3550  4380  Joey Smith
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  No    Yes    18  8    1676    7720 3550  4380  DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  7    1905    7720 3550  4380  sanman28
2018 XLT      123 Yes No  Yes   No     18  8    1633    7450 3375  4380  Meeker
2018 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1644    7720 3550  4380  Squark
2018 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1542    7450 3375  4380  Rx7gslse
2019 Limited  132 No  No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1590    7400 3300  4380  Dice Roll
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  8    1855    7720 3550  4380  duneslider
 

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2020 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes No 18 8 1855 7720 3550 4380 duneslider

How is this possible? I have the EXACT MODEL!

2020 XLT FX4 HD Tow Package (my only two options). The weight difference is off the front axle (mine is 3375).

Duneslider, do you have a 3rd row delete or something? Rear captain's chairs? Or MAX?
 

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2020 XLT 132 Yes Yes Yes No 18 8 1855 7720 3550 4380 duneslider

How is this possible? I have the EXACT MODEL!

2020 XLT FX4 HD Tow Package (my only two options). The weight difference is off the front axle (mine is 3375).

Duneslider, do you have a 3rd row delete or something? Rear captain's chairs? Or MAX?

Actually Duneslider didn't provide the axle weights - I just copied the ones from sanman28. Duneslider, are they correct?
 

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Actually Duneslider didn't provide the axle weights - I just copied the ones from sanman28. Duneslider, are they correct?

Front Axle 3550 Rear 4380. GVWR 7720. XLT Max 8 pass, bench seats both rows. Mine is a 2019, not a 2020.
 
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