Catch Can!

[Broncoholic]

keep in mind 2200 miles isn’t even an oil change interval.

2,200 miles isn't, but 14 months is! She's at the dealer now getting serviced + some warranty complaints.

 

[1970Maverick]

My first catch can measurement. I installed a can at my previous oil change 35,000mi (I always change oil every 5000mi). When I did my oil change a few days ago 40,000mi, I measured three quarters of an ounce with no goop just oil. My only regret is that I didn't know about catch cans sooner.

 

[66nova]

I have a JLT catch cannot sitting on the shelf waiting for install. Definitely need to get it done.


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[Langer]

My truck has a “crankshaft rod knock” (I don’t know enough about engine internal anatomy to really know more, this is all a follow up to the cylinder 6 misfire I had about a month ago that got fixed with a new coil, but still ran and sounded like shit afterwards) and the dealer plans replace with new long block. The service contract company’s adjuster is coming out out this week to start the whole process.
I was too worried they’d try to blame the catch can or use it as an excuse to not cover anything, so I zipped out this morning and pulled it off. Fingers crossed they don’t try to screw me over.

 

[LokiWolf]

keep in mind 2200 miles isn’t even an oil change interval.

What does that have to do with anything? The point is, that installing one stops this from ending up in the intake, and decreases build up on the valves.

 

[Langer]

Man oh man, was the Ford tech that replaced my engine pissed about me putting my can back on. Said there’s nothing wrong with ford’s design, too many people reading stupid forums, blah blah blah. Said I’m going to burn up my new engine running that and I should bring it back to stock. Didn’t know what to say, just let him rant. It clearly catches a bunch of junk that would obviously get routed directly back into the intake. Don’t see how you could argue that’s a good thing.

 

[lbv150]

Man oh man, was the Ford tech that replaced my engine pissed about me putting my can back on. Said there’s nothing wrong with ford’s design, too many people reading stupid forums, blah blah blah. Said I’m going to burn up my new engine running that and I should bring it back to stock. Didn’t know what to say, just let him rant. It clearly catches a bunch of junk that would obviously get routed directly back into the intake. Don’t see how you could argue that’s a good thing.

Ford tech is a trained parts changer not a mechanic that is paid to think.

 

[Brons2]

I'm glad the 5.4 doesn't need one of these, but every other part of the engine is problematic

 

[lbv150]

I'm glad the 5.4 doesn't need one of these, but every other part of the engine is problematic

Every engine made with a PCV system can benefit with a can.

 

[Brons2]

It'd benefit more from new phasers and solenoids. Coming soon, along with all the other stuff, and a new Melling HV oil pump.

 

[Kathy]

If you have a 15-17 and aren’t running a Catch can you are severely missing out on an easy build up preventer, and possible issues down the line. See images below. It was a nice day after a week of severe cold, so I took the opportunity to empty my Catch cans on both my 16 Edge Sport and my 17 Expedition(1st Gen 3.5EB). These are pics from my Expeditions catch can After about 3500 Miles. My Edge was slightly less, but looked the same, and was about 4000 miles. It is worse in winter, and the 3.5 definitely fills faster.

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Hi LokiWolf,
Did you install the Catch Can yourself? We ordered one for our 2016 Exp Limited and my husband is going to install it, but resources for instructions for the Expy's seem to be limited. Especially, front grill removal. Any help or pointing to help is appreciated.
Thanks

 

[Begwi]

Hi LokiWolf,
Did you install the Catch Can yourself? We ordered one for our 2016 Exp Limited and my husband is going to install it, but resources for instructions for the Expy's seem to be limited. Especially, front grill removal. Any help or pointing to help is appreciated.
Thanks

Kathy: sorry to barge in, but the catch can is pretty easy to install. The front grill does not need to be removed at all. Your purchase should come with enclosed directions, but photos of mine are included. They should work for you.

 

[maxxplatinum9137]

Hi LokiWolf,
Did you install the Catch Can yourself? We ordered one for our 2016 Exp Limited and my husband is going to install it, but resources for instructions for the Expy's seem to be limited. Especially, front grill removal. Any help or pointing to help is appreciated.
Thanks

It bolts to the firewall or battery box. Takes 5 minutes to install. And make sure that you only get the passenger side catch camp you’re not need a catch can from the driver side

 

[chuck s]

Dirt simple to install.

Lift off the engine cover, unsnap the existing hoses, and snap in the catch can hoses. The can attaches to the firewall using an existing bolt. 10mm of course. Gotta be photos here.

-- Chuck

 

[LokiWolf]

Dirt simple to install.

Lift off the engine cover, unsnap the existing hoses, and snap in the catch can hoses. The can attaches to the firewall using an existing bolt. 10mm of course. Gotta be photos here.

-- Chuck

The newer ones attach to the battery box.

 

[LokiWolf]

Hi LokiWolf,
Did you install the Catch Can yourself? We ordered one for our 2016 Exp Limited and my husband is going to install it, but resources for instructions for the Expy's seem to be limited. Especially, front grill removal. Any help or pointing to help is appreciated.
Thanks

All of the above gotcha! No grill removal needed if it is the J&L(JLT) Catch Can. If it is the style that goes in the battery box location, you will need a drill to drill one little hole in the plastic(10 seconds). If it is the style that goes on the firewall, you are using an existing bolt/nut.

 

[Jst ROM]

Hello folks,

Just reading and catching up on the stories, it pretty much applies to all Expy's from V8 to EcoBoost's. I haven't read all the posts but wondering how about the ones for the high mileage Expy's? I have a 2008 Expy Limited with minor engine MODS (if you consider a K&N reusable air filter) with over 220K original miles, and stringently change the oil every 5K with Bosch Distance Plus oil filter and Castro GTX semi-synthetic oil (additional info, if it helps). The usage of this Expy is short to long distances (5-100+ miles per day, sometimes), from local grocery shopping, hauling a 21ft boat to minor off-roading. I only have one vehicle and this is a well-pampered truck. I'm wondering is it too late to invest in an oil catch can or let it out to pasture until it dies?

 

[sjwelds]

Hello folks,

Just reading and catching up on the stories, it pretty much applies to all Expy's from V8 to EcoBoost's. I haven't read all the posts but wondering how about the ones for the high mileage Expy's? I have a 2008 Expy Limited with minor engine MODS (if you consider a K&N reusable air filter) with over 220K original miles, and stringently change the oil every 5K with Bosch Distance Plus oil filter and Castro GTX semi-synthetic oil (additional info, if it helps). The usage of this Expy is short to long distances (5-100+ miles per day, sometimes), from local grocery shopping, hauling a 21ft boat to minor off-roading. I only have one vehicle and this is a well-pampered truck. I'm wondering is it too late to invest in an oil catch can or let it out to pasture until it dies?

I'd say the general consensus is a catch can isn't needed on a NA V8. Does it help, sure, but not a have-to.

Look at it this way: you have 220k on your truck. Whatever you have been doing is working; keep doing it. Lol

 

[maxxplatinum9137]

Hello folks,

Just reading and catching up on the stories, it pretty much applies to all Expy's from V8 to EcoBoost's. I haven't read all the posts but wondering how about the ones for the high mileage Expy's? I have a 2008 Expy Limited with minor engine MODS (if you consider a K&N reusable air filter) with over 220K original miles, and stringently change the oil every 5K with Bosch Distance Plus oil filter and Castro GTX semi-synthetic oil (additional info, if it helps). The usage of this Expy is short to long distances (5-100+ miles per day, sometimes), from local grocery shopping, hauling a 21ft boat to minor off-roading. I only have one vehicle and this is a well-pampered truck. I'm wondering is it too late to invest in an oil catch can or let it out to pasture until it dies?

Only really needed on a 15-17 expedition or anything with a gen 1 6 speed v6

 

[LokiWolf]

Only really needed on a 15-17 expedition or anything with a gen 1 6 speed v6

Incorrect. Technically a Catch Can is a plus on any motor. It prevents gumming up and oiling of the intake. Became especially advantageous with DI motors, because there was no fuel washing of the intake, yet there was still heat, so the oil became solid deposits.

Even with the PI(Port Injection) added back to the 2nd gen 3.5TT EB motors, it is not the same as a strictly PI motor. The washing is not consistent, and the PI injectors are not always in use. I have seen images of the 2nd Gen motors, and while the deposits are less for the same mileage, it is still a VERY inexpensive and easily installed prevention device.