Remove trailer hitch to reduce weight 2008 XLT

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Robert Gift

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Can it be unbolted as I did with our 99 Expedition?
Will never use it. Why haul the weight?
What about removing the third row seats which fold down into the floor?
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Reduce weight and save fuel.

Why?
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Why not get rid of the weight and increase fuel mileage?
Over many miles it makes a difference.
Wish that I could get rid of the lightbar which causes wind resistance and lowers fuel mileage.

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Your not gonna see much difference

Driving habits will net you more

Mine with the retarded size lift get 10mpg max so far

It's a large SUV, not a hyundai, although my old f250 got 22.5 but it was diesel so it balanced out

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On the second gens (and probably on the 1st and 3rd gens as well) the hitch is used for helping the rear end in case of a rear impact.

Driving habits and tire pressure def help. You could probably remove the 3rd row seat if you don't really use it, though it'll probably be a lot louder.
 

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Nope. You cant remove it. It's the only thing behind the rear bumper and is an integral part of the the rear frame. You get rear ended without it and the spare tire is the only thing protecting you.

The 3rd row can be removed. Most of the SSV Expeditions came without a 3rd row and just had a cover over the area.

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Agreed, the hitch bar offers a lot of protection to the rear. I've been rear ended a couple times at low speeds, and my trailer hitch itself kept them from hitting my bumper. I would keep it.
 

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Having been a part in designing racing baja karts for a few years, there are some areas where weight savings is helpful and where it really isnt. Reducing the length of a couple of bolts by .25 inches may shave weight but in the end, that big mac you ate or that extra .5 inch of hair on your head is just gonna negate that anyways. In your case, chopping things out of your expy really isnt going to do you much good and just cause frustration when that one day comes when you will need that part you removed. If you want great mpg, the expedition certainly isnt even a vehicle you should own but improving the efficiency of your truck is always an option. Bad mpg is just the nature of the beast when it comes to expeditions. Instead of removing your light bar, wax your truck to reduce the coef. of drag over the surface area of your vehicle. This will give you way more gain then removing parts. Making sure ur tires are at the correct pressure will reduce the energy loss and heat production from the tires because they are flexing less. A high performance filter or intake will give you 2 to 3 mpg more. A better exhaust will also boost your mpg and power. I def agree your driving habits area huge influence on mpg over a long period of time. These were just a few ideas on how to boost some mpg. The minor things magazines tell you that boost mpg are a load of garbage and only work in a controlled environment. Stay smart and make changes that matter.
 
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Thank you, all.

Now that I got a chance to look closely, I see that the trailer hitch is part of the frame.
Our 99's hitch was completely removed by unbolting it.

To save fuel, I accelerate gently (always in the right lane out of others' way) and look ahead and start coasting early up to stopped traffic or a RED signal.
(Often I arrive when the signal has turned GREEN and use the brakes much less.
Also less fuel is used when accelerating from rolling instead of breaking free from being stopped.
I avoid increasing speed when going up a hill.
But all of this savings is completely ruined on emergency runs.
 

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The most efficient acceleration you can ever get is actually twice the expeditions 1/4 mile time. Slower accel can actually be just as bad as gassing it hard. This is from test data done by popular mechanics. Its a great mag for people who love cars and actually work on them. Also for people who love science. I get both PopSci and PopMechanics
 
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Get a programmer that has a mileage tune. I have the superchips flashpaq and the MileageXS tune improves my mileage by about 2-3 mpg.
Using "hypermiling" driving techniques can also help a lot.
 
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The most efficient acceleration you can ever get is actually twice the expeditions 1/4 mile time. Slower accel can actually be just as bad as gassing it hard. This is from test data done by popular mechanics. Its a great mag for people who love cars and actually work on them. Also for people who love science. I get both PopSci and PopMechanics
I don't believe that.
During normal driving I do not often exceed 2,500 rpm when accelerating.
But I do wish that I could know the IDEAL acceleration for fuel economy.
The 44 psi M&S tires are at 42 psi. Wish that I could find fuel-saving highway treads for when the stock 18" M&S wear out.
I have very aggresive "Winter" tires on their own 17" wheels.
Use Motorcraft 5W-20 motor oil.
Would like to turn the engine off for the long coasts down out of the mountains, but I may burn the transmission in neutral without the fluid being pumped.
 
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maybe you got the wrong vehicle...no 3rd row...no tail gate shouldve got a F150...theres going to be a time where youre going to say..."wish i had my 3rd row"...
 

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Mine had a 3rd row but not when I bought it, glad I don't have it

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i agree with programmer with gas saver setting...i have one and love the increase in mpg's...coupled with intake (you can do gotts mod) and exhuast...i get pretty good mileage
 

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I don't believe that.
During normal driving I do not often exceed 2,500 rpm when accelerating.
But I do wish that I could know the IDEAL acceleration for fuel economy.
The 44 psi M&S tires are at 42 psi. Wish that I could find fuel-saving highway treads for when the stock 18" M&S wear out.
I have very aggresive "Winter" tires on their own 17" wheels.
Use Motorcraft 5W-20 motor oil.
Would like to turn the engine off for the long coasts down out of the mountains, but I may burn the transmission in neutral without the fluid being pumped.

I for one try to get the most out of my Expy as far as gas mileage. But I feel you are going down a path that just isn't really winnable (if that's a word). Expy's by nature are not efficient mileage vehicles. My wife's Prius is.

I think the best thing you can do for yourself is purchase a mileage monitor like the one I use. The Scanguage II. It provides feedback of your average mileage and instant mileage as you go. You will find that a moderate acceleration will increase your mileage over a real slow acceleration because the mileage is based not only on fuel consumption but the distance traveled. Therefore there is a sweet spot on acceleration you use more fuel for the first part but increase your overall mpg due to the better mileage at speed. A lot of this depends on how long you will be traveling at a higher constant speed, so the situation dictates.

The downside is you may find the built in mileage on the expy will be overstating your real mileage which for me is a bit more than 1 mpg. The Scanguage II also keeps track of your current trip mileage, day mileage and mileage for each tank. It really has helped me tune my driving habits for better mileage.

A good tune for your driving habits might be a good investment for you as well.

Johnny
 
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Why not get rid of the weight and increase fuel mileage?
Over many miles it makes a difference.
Wish that I could get rid of the lightbar which causes wind resistance and lowers fuel mileage.

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Dear Mr. Gift. There is nothing wrong with trying to get a little extra out of the tank. I do all the time. But it appears that you might be asking for something that is not realistic. An expedition by nature is a big, heavy, gas guzzling beast. I don't mean to sound like an a$$ but maybe you should consider downsizing or buying an econo box just to use for good gas mileage and keep the expedition for when you need it. If I had the money, thats exatly what I would do. I just cant afford to buy another car right now.
 

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Sorry Johny Law. I didn't see your post till after i posted.:facepalm: Ooooooooooooooooops.
 
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There is nothing wrong with trying to get a little extra out of the tank. I do all the time. But it appears that you might be asking for something that is not realistic. An expedition by nature is a big, heavy, gas guzzling beast. I don't mean to sound like an a$$ but maybe you should consider downsizing or buying an econo box just to use for good gas mileage and keep the expedition for when you need it. If I had the money, thats exatly what I would do. I just cant afford to buy another car right now.
Thank you.
Correct.
When possible, I drive our used 2005 Toyota Corolla for fuel efficiency.

Justrying to get as much mileage out of the Expedition as possible.
When I end a normal drive, its readout indicates 20.? mpg. (Accurate or does Ford exaggerate it to make it look better?)

Unfortunately it needs to be big and 4WD, both of which decrease fuel mileage.
I'd love to install that fuel mileage meter, but it would cost more than the fuel I ever save. (I'd also be looking at it too much.)
I should look for one on Craig's List.
 
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