99WhiteC5Coupe
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I am happy with the 5.3L and did not want to deal with a diesel. My Expedition’s 3.5L Ecoboost had more “get up and go” and was quieter, but the 5.3L works for me.
The HORRIBLE steering wheel prevents me...
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I am happy with the 5.3L and did not want to deal with a diesel. My Expedition’s 3.5L Ecoboost had more “get up and go” and was quieter, but the 5.3L works for me.
Lot of you younger members probably don't know or remember, but Chrysler had "square" steering wheels back in the late 50's and early 60's. On their standard units like Plymouth's and Dodges all the way up to their famous Chrysler 300 series.....
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99WhiteC5Coupe
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My wife bought a new 2025 Chevrolet Equinox RS AWD and it came standard with a (slight) flat-bottom heated steering wheel (leather wrapped and thick).
It is a stupid design and I’m not sure what Chevrolet was thinking when they designed this steering wheel (which is not a wheel)? I drive the vehicle occasionally the the steering wheel feels awkward when turning it.
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Trainmaster
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My '63 Chrysler 300 and New York both had those square wheels and yes, they were silly and awkward to drive back then too... They's whip around and rap your wrist coming out of a quick turn.
I have a question, how are you able to get comfy in your tahoe? I tested each variant with my wife and we can never get comfy in the seats.
99WhiteC5Coupe
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The seats seem very comfortable in my Tahoe. It is the premier version, with heated and cooled front seats, lumbar adjustment and numerous power adjustments.
The heating and ventilation features work much better than those from my 2015 Expedition (purchased new). The Tahoe has a 3-setting heat feature for the seat back and seat cushion, or you can choose to heat only the seat back in three levels.
The Expedition was comfortable but had poor quality seat covers (Limited model).
Every one we drove, my wife said the same thing "these seats are too hard". Compared to the other suvs, she likes gm seats the least. Then add no adjustable pedals and it was an instant no.
Expensedition
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After 1000 miles, the wheel shape disappears until you have something in your lap that jams on the flat as you steer.
This wheel may be a safety hazard, but otherwise it works just fine as you adapt.
There are many things wrong with the 26 but there are some things that are right. I just need to keep an open mind and find them.
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This wheel may be a safety hazard, but otherwise it works just fine as you adapt.
There are many things wrong with the 26 but there are some things that are right. I just need to keep an open mind and find them.
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99WhiteC5Coupe
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You’re right. The Tahoe seats are a little firmer than my Expedition seats.
I was the only one that drove the Expedition and now the Tahoe. The adjustable pedals seemed like a great idea on the Expedition - but once I adjusted them for me, I never changed them.
One Ford feature I really miss is the Securicode keypad on the left front door. What a great feature!
Explorer ST's steering wheel is not completly round, our '23 had a flatter bottom.
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TheDoug
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Just can never bring myself to buy a chevy
99WhiteC5Coupe
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Good dealer service is a big deal for me. Ford drove me away with poor dealer service and lack of repair parts, causing my Expedition to sit at the dealer for three months (two separate times), awaiting parts.
Overall, I’ve had very good service from Chevrolet dealers.
That doesn’t bother me at all. Came from the VW/Audi, and that was normal. Still mostly round. Much better than the Squircle…
I agree, dealer matters! My Ford dealer is great, so no issues.
99WhiteC5Coupe
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I’ve been buying new cars since 1975 (I began buying used cars earlier).
I have never bought the perfect vehicle - all have something that I would have designed differently. But most were okay for my needs.
The oddly shaped steering wheel that has been discussed would not be a deal-breaker for me. I would have bought a new Expedition (and Ford’s ESP) despite it - if I hadn’t had such a bad time with the dealership experience and part’s service. I am way past putting up with miserable service and then returning.
I have been amazed for some time how manufacturers tolerate bad dealerships?
Manufacturers survey their customers on dealer service, yet no one ever contacts the customers that submit surveys rating the dealer service poorly (or lack of part’s availability).
Perhaps dealers and manufacturers have so much business that they have no need to try to attract and retain customers?
GlennSullivan
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I need to tow with my Expedition, and while I am looking to replace it, I can't go with the 5.3 (not enough power) and wont go with the 6.2 (obvious ongoing problems). I also don't like the lower GM tow rating so I'm just treading water, hoping someone in Michigan gets their head out of their azz and gets a full size SUV right in the near term.
I have no problem buying Ford or GM as long as the vehicle completely meets my needs and there is a local dealer that I can live with.
For $90K+ people should not have to compromise or put up with substandard service, but evidently a lot of people do or the manufacturers would have fixed things already.
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Floridaman
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I had the new Expedition given to me as a loaner while my '24 Timberline was in the shop for an apparently unresolvable glitchy AVM. I hated the "Squircle" and it would be a deal breaker for me. Beyond that, dealer service has been apathetic to the ongoing AVM issue, has had three strikes trying to fix the second row folding seat that doesn't fold with the button, and when someone backed into me in a parking lot, it took Ford a full month to produce a new rear bumper. Poor dealer support, and the Squircle are both deal breakers for me so Ford may lose me forever.
5280tunage
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i've been watching these closely given the design changes on the 25+. I also won't buy one with the way things are. But the little duramax is a good engine but man, it is so slow at first. It's acceleration is several seconds slower than the 3.5EB. It will be interesting to see, supposedly they are working on the next gen v8's, in Canada. One would hope with all of the issues they will pay close attention to quality.
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