Towing capacity for 06

[kurtnsue]

I'm looking into buying a 30' ultralight travel trailer. Here are some specs: UVW (dry) 6805, GVWR 8800. I currently own a '03 Yukon Denali and I'm looking to change it to an '06 Expedition. I'm looking on the web to see about towing capacities and I'm getting confused. I know that the first generation of these don't tow as much as the second and third do. So, can someone give me advice as to what weight would be the maximum I could pull with an '06? The door jam of the Denali says GVWR of 8200 lbs. Does that mean the trailer I'm looking into is 600lbs too heavy?

 

[Stoned06]

Without a weight distribution hitch, on the '06 Expy you can tow 6000 lbs if the vehicle is equipped with the Tow pkg. If you have the WDH, you can tow 8600 lbs.

Every manufacturer's towing capacity takes into account no cargo in the vehicle, and only the driver. For every pound extra in the car, you can deduct that amount from the trailer. That being said, most people do not follow that because it isn't clearly stated anywhere.

 

[kurtnsue]

'06 towing capacity

Soooooo what your telling me is that the Expy won't safely pull the trailer at 8800 lbs not counting the people in the vehicle and stuff in the back. Sounds to me I'm cutting it too close with the weight I want to pull.

 

[kurtnsue]

I've been looking at other posts and I understand what I'm up against thanks stoned06.

 

[Racenut]

This is straight from the owners manual

***NOTE ALL WEIGHTS ARE IN #'S AND REQUIRE TRAILER BRAKES****

GCWR - GROSS COMBINED WEIGHT RATING (Expedition with all persons, gear, and trailer combined).

2WD

5.4L with standard trailer tow package

GCWR 11,800 Trailer weight 0–6,000

5.4L with optional trailer tow package

GCWR 14,500 Trailer weight 0–8,900

4X4

5.4L with standard trailer tow package

GCWR 11,900 Trailer weight 0–6,000

5.4L with optional trailer tow package

GCWR 14,500 Trailer weight 0–8,600

Weight Distribution

***These are hitch ratings only; actual vehicle ratings are dependent on
engine, transmission and axle combinations.***

Weight carrying

Max trailer weight 6,000 Max tounge weight 600

Weight distributing

Max trailer weight 8,950 Max tounge weight 895

Hope this clears up some confusion. If you where to get a 2wd Expedition then you should not have any problems with that trailer, but if you go with a 4x4 then you will be over weight. Also for the weight of that trailer you will have to run a weight distribution set up and I would definatley recomend one with an anti sway built into it.

 

[Racenut]

Without a weight distribution hitch, on the '06 Expy you can tow 6000 lbs if the vehicle is equipped with the Tow pkg. If you have the WDH, you can tow 8600 lbs.

This is great info, but if you look at my other post you will see your numbers are off by 300# depending on if he is looking at a 2wd or a 4x4. A 2wd with a WDH setup can handle a trailer up to 8,900#. The GCWR does not change between 2wd or 4x4 but the extra weight from the t-case and front axle is what makes the 4x4 have less capacity.

This is in the owners manual

6. If your vehicle will be towing a trailer, load from your trailer will be
transferred to your vehicle. Consult this manual to determine how this
reduces the available cargo and luggage load capacity of your vehicle.
The following gives you a few examples on how to calculate the available
amount of cargo and luggage load capacity:
• Another example for your vehicle with 1400 lb. (635 kg) of cargo and
luggage capacity. You decide to go golfing. Is there enough load
capacity to carry you, 4 of your friends and all the golf bags? You and
four friends average 220 lb. (99 kg) each and the golf bags weigh
approximately 30 lb. (13.5 kg) each. The calculation would be: 1400 –
(5 x 220) – (5 x 30) = 1400 – 1100 – 150 = 150 lb. Yes, you have
enough load capacity in your vehicle to transport four friends and
your golf bags. In metric units, the calculation would be: 635 kg —
(5 x 99 kg) — (5 x 13.5 kg) = 635 — 495 — 67.5 = 72.5 kg.
• A final example for your vehicle with 1400 lb. (635 kg) of cargo and
luggage capacity. You and one of your friends decide to pick up
cement from the local home improvement store to finish that patio
you have been planning for the past 2 years. Measuring the inside of
the vehicle with the rear seat folded down, you have room for 12-100 lb.
(45 kg) bags of cement. Do you have enough load capacity to
transport the cement to your home? If you and your friend each weigh
220 lb. (99 kg), the calculation would be: 1400 – (2 x 220) – (12 x 100) =
1400 – 440 – 1200 = – 240 lb. No, you do not have enough cargo
capacity to carry that much weight. In metric units, the calculation
would be: 635 kg — (2 x 99 kg) — (12 x 45 kg) = 635 — 198 — 540 =
—103 kg. You will need to reduce the load weight by at least 240 lb.
(104 kg). If you remove 3-100 lb. (45 kg) cement bags, then the load
calculation would be:
1400 – (2 x 220) – (9 x 100) = 1400 – 440 – 900 = 60 lb. Now you
have the load capacity to transport the cement and your friend home.
In metric units, the calculation would be: 635 kg — (2 x 99 kg) —
(9 x 45 kg) = 635 — 198 — 405 = 32 kg.
The above calculations also assume that the loads are positioned in your
vehicle in a manner that does not overload the Front or the Rear Gross
Axle Weight Rating specified for your vehicle on the Safety Compliance
Certification Label found on the edge of the driver’s door.
2006 Expedition

 

[Blackwater]

LMAO

 

[Blackwater]

And NO the jack isnt down. Some ******* bent it and thats as high as it would go till I fix it. The jack is up about 5-6 inchs.

 

[hertfordnc]

Soooooo what your telling me is that the Expy won't safely pull the trailer at 8800 lbs not counting the people in the vehicle and stuff in the back. Sounds to me I'm cutting it too close with the weight I want to pull.

I don't think that't the case. The trailers max gross is 8800 lb. but it's dry weight is 6800, two adults and two kids is another 500. So you have another 1500 for stuff.

That seems like a lot of stuff. You can fill your holding tank at the campground.

You might get a more comprehensive answer on the RV towing forum.

 

[thevalleyboy]

I tow a 23' hybrid, 5000lbs GVWR trailer with a weight disto setup, and brakes and the 2006 Expy 4 x 4 does fine, however even with only 5000lbs and the 3.73 ratio it's not a rocket, with that trailer it would even be slower - as long as your willing to take your time and ensure your weights are okay (it is illegal here to tow overweight, and if they check you you will be fined/and towed) not sure your local state/province rules. With a trailer that big I would go Excursion Diesel, of 3/4 ton truck - skip right over the 1/2 tons - just my 2 cents - oh ya and watch out for the cross winds