Whats the verdict on XLT/Limited LED head light upgrade?

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I have been reading about the Hikari, Alla, and other brand LED headlight upgrades for the XLT, and limited trim levels for several months now...just did a long night drive and realized how bad the stock halogen headlights are...need to upgrade asap. We upgraded some LEDs from Diodedynamicas on our Colorado a few months back and they were great.

Wondering what High/Low/fog light LED you upgraded to:

Any flickering?
 

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I went with Alla for high, low and fog.

Massive difference over the stock Halogens.

I used to run the fogs with the lows when it was Halogens. Now just the lows as running the fogs too would blind everyone otherwise. The lows retained pretty much the exact beam pattern as stock and the original cut off line.

Bambi mode in the pic. d47b637db4520afe3ae1c986d4b4e50f.jpg

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I went with Alla for high, low and fog.

Massive difference over the stock Halogens.

I used to run the fogs with the lows when it was Halogens. Now just the lows as running the fogs too would blind everyone otherwise. The lows retained pretty much the exact beam pattern as stock and the original cut off line.

Bambi mode in the pic. d47b637db4520afe3ae1c986d4b4e50f.jpg

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Nice man...which version of the hella and fog did you go with? I went with the Alla 2800lb for $25 on amazon for the fog lights and there better but not enough to make much difference when driving.
 

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I went with Alla for high, low and fog.

Massive difference over the stock Halogens.

I used to run the fogs with the lows when it was Halogens. Now just the lows as running the fogs too would blind everyone otherwise. The lows retained pretty much the exact beam pattern as stock and the original cut off line.

Bambi mode in the pic. d47b637db4520afe3ae1c986d4b4e50f.jpg

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Now you need to get switchback bulbs for the turn signals...
 

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Here is the list of them:

Low:
Alla Lighting Mini FL-BH H8 H9 H11

High:
Alla Lighting Mini FL-BH 12500 Lumens Newest HB3 9005

Fog:
Alla Lighting 5200lm AL-R H8 H11



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With the LED's are the day time running lights working OK & any other possible problems . high beam indicator
 

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With the LED's are the day time running lights working OK & any other possible problems . high beam indicator
Everything has worked like they are stock to the truck.

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Here is the list of them:

Low:
Alla Lighting Mini FL-BH H8 H9 H11

High:
Alla Lighting Mini FL-BH 12500 Lumens Newest HB3 9005

Fog:
Alla Lighting 5200lm AL-R H8 H11



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Not that I would believe Amazon's system, but when trying to order, the bulbs you have listed for the fog lights state it doesn't fit. Can you confirm this model before I order?
 

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Not that I would believe Amazon's system, but when trying to order, the bulbs you have listed for the fog lights state it doesn't fit. Can you confirm this model before I order?

The low is HB3 and high is H9.
 

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Not that I would believe Amazon's system, but when trying to order, the bulbs you have listed for the fog lights state it doesn't fit. Can you confirm this model before I order?
Yes, the model listed for the fogs fit with no issue. Ordered mine off of Amazon and yes it says they don't fit. I contacted Alla lighting before ordering.

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Here is the direct reply of bulbs from Alla for this application:

Low Beam H11 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Headlight-Bulbs-for-Cars-Trucks-|-1-Pair/5018

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



High Beam 9005 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Headlight-Bulbs-for-Cars-Trucks-|-1-Pair/5020

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Fog Light 9140/H10 bulb size >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Bright-LED-Lights-Bulbs-for-Cars,-Trucks/4434

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Front Turn Signal 7444 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...n-Signal-Light-|-Super-Bright-LED-|1-Pair/563

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Rear Turn Signal 3157 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669

*will require extra load resistors*





Brake Light/ Tail Light 3157 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669

*may require extra load resistors*



Reverse Light 3157 bulb size >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669



Universal Load Resistors >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...gnal-Hyper-Flash-Error-Canceller-|-1-Pair/375



For the applications not listed we will require an image of original bulb part number. Based on owner’s manual the application would have stock LED bulbs and if so our LED products would not be compatible.

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Yes, the model listed for the fogs fit with no issue. Ordered mine off of Amazon and yes it says they don't fit. I contacted Alla lighting before ordering.

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I'm interested in replacing my bulbs as well. I just bought my '18 Expedition and the headlights are the one thing that I don't like. Are these bulbs easy to switch out? I can figure out how to access them, once in the housing, do the old bulbs just pull out and the new ones push in? Or is there a trick? Also, do you know if the fog lamps are available in yellow? The Switchback turn lamps, is that just for the front or does it work in the back as well? I know, lots of questions - thanks for your help!
 

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I'm interested in replacing my bulbs as well. I just bought my '18 Expedition and the headlights are the one thing that I don't like. Are these bulbs easy to switch out? I can figure out how to access them, once in the housing, do the old bulbs just pull out and the new ones push in? Or is there a trick? Also, do you know if the fog lamps are available in yellow? The Switchback turn lamps, is that just for the front or does it work in the back as well? I know, lots of questions - thanks for your help!
Oops, I just saw your post for the other vehicle lights, so the turn-signal question is answered!
 

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I'm interested in replacing my bulbs as well. I just bought my '18 Expedition and the headlights are the one thing that I don't like. Are these bulbs easy to switch out? I can figure out how to access them, once in the housing, do the old bulbs just pull out and the new ones push in? Or is there a trick? Also, do you know if the fog lamps are available in yellow? The Switchback turn lamps, is that just for the front or does it work in the back as well? I know, lots of questions - thanks for your help!
Install video for the low beams. Highs are the same just right below the lows. Note you don't have to take out the main clip like they do. Just the front panel screws.


Fog install (plenty of clearance with the bulbs I listened):


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Here is the direct reply of bulbs from Alla for this application:

Low Beam H11 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Headlight-Bulbs-for-Cars-Trucks-|-1-Pair/5018

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



High Beam 9005 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Headlight-Bulbs-for-Cars-Trucks-|-1-Pair/5020

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Fog Light 9140/H10 bulb size >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...Bright-LED-Lights-Bulbs-for-Cars,-Trucks/4434

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Front Turn Signal 7444 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...n-Signal-Light-|-Super-Bright-LED-|1-Pair/563

*low chance of requiring extra load resistors*



Rear Turn Signal 3157 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669

*will require extra load resistors*





Brake Light/ Tail Light 3157 bulb size >> https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669

*may require extra load resistors*



Reverse Light 3157 bulb size >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...-Turn-Reverse-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-|-1-Pair/2669



Universal Load Resistors >>https://allalighting.com/shop/produ...gnal-Hyper-Flash-Error-Canceller-|-1-Pair/375



For the applications not listed we will require an image of original bulb part number. Based on owner’s manual the application would have stock LED bulbs and if so our LED products would not be compatible.

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Looks like Alla has moved their commerce all over to Amazon now.

https://www.amazon.com/allalighting?ref_=d6k_applink_bb_dls

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Hi, I’m a new owner to a 2020 Expy XLT blacked out edition. I have a 2000 Expy many moons ago and have since been an Explorer owner
Anyways , I’ve been scouring the posts on Led fog bulbs for the 4th gen Expedition. So I purchased some Alla H11. Got them and they did not fit. So I then ordered from Amazon again, and got some JDM H11 LEDs. They didn’t fit. I took a closer look at the oem bulb and it’s a Phillips H8. I just ordered Alla H8 so I’m hoping it will fit.

im wondering if the 2020’s have a different bulb set up on the fogs?
I hope I don’t run into this when I do the high/low beams.

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Hi, I’m a new owner to a 2020 Expy XLT blacked out edition. I have a 2000 Expy many moons ago and have since been an Explorer owner
Anyways , I’ve been scouring the posts on Led fog bulbs for the 4th gen Expedition. So I purchased some Alla H11. Got them and they did not fit. So I then ordered from Amazon again, and got some JDM H11 LEDs. They didn’t fit. I took a closer look at the oem bulb and it’s a Phillips H8. I just ordered Alla H8 so I’m hoping it will fit.

im wondering if the 2020’s have a different bulb set up on the fogs?
I hope I don’t run into this when I do the high/low beams.

The fogs are the only difference. The manual is incorrect and was never corrected by Ford.
 

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Ok to update all information I have received on what bulbs are in my Expeditions front are incorrect.
As mention earlier the fog light bulbs ended up being H8’s

So today I pulled the low beam, manuals again indicated it to being H11. I got in there to install a new slyvania silver star ultra. It ended up being 9005...Lucky for me Auto Zone allowed me to exchange even after package was opened. Installed the new 9005 and fit is perfect.
While up there I pulled the High beam. Those were H9’s. Not HB3’s as everyone says.

I don’t know why or what’s up but Ford changed the bulbs during build. The Expy is brand new with 400 miles which I got from the dealer with 11. Built in March 2020.
 

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Ok to update all information I have received on what bulbs are in my Expeditions front are incorrect.
As mention earlier the fog light bulbs ended up being H8’s

So today I pulled the low beam, manuals again indicated it to being H11. I got in there to install a new slyvania silver star ultra. It ended up being 9005...Lucky for me Auto Zone allowed me to exchange even after package was opened. Installed the new 9005 and fit is perfect.
While up there I pulled the High beam. Those were H9’s. Not HB3’s as everyone says.

I don’t know why or what’s up but Ford changed the bulbs during build. The Expy is brand new with 400 miles which I got from the dealer with 11. Built in March 2020.

Seems like you may have it flipped, top bulb is low and bottom is high? H9 are similar to H11 and 9005 are similar to HB3 as they have the same connectors. I have a Feb 2020 build XLT Fx4 and the only thing wrong was the fog bulb.
 
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