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Why the burning smell? Does the bad bearing get that hot? Or other parts rubbing due to excessive play?
 

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Oof. Thats misleading. Its not telling you that the bearing is bad. Its telling you the ABS sensor is bad, and the fix is to replace the hub assembly. Thats because its a sealed unit and it contains both the bearing and the sensor.

No its not telling you the ABS sensor is bad. its telling you that the sensors signal is not what the computer is expecting to see. Its up to the person working on it to interpret the information. The sensor probably is fine. The reason for the sensor code is that the toothed sensor ring that passes by the sensor is attached to the hub. When the bearing in the hub gets loose enough the distance between the sensor ring and the sensor changes, and gives an odd signal to the computer, setting off the code. Then the traction control module sees something is wrong with the sensor signal and shuts off the system since it also relies on this signal. If the bearing gets loose enough then the ring can rub against the sensor destroying it. That's why I replaced both with the hub assembly that came with the sensor.

And its also wrong that it is a sealed unit with the sensor. The sensor is not part of the hub, it can be replaced separately
 

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Why the burning smell? Does the bad bearing get that hot? Or other parts rubbing due to excessive play?
could be either. mine made no smell if it wasn't for the abs light and traction control light coming on I would not have known there was a problem
 

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2003 XLT. @101K I had a rear wheel hub (bearing) go. @106K I had the other side wheel hub (bearing) go. I'd just do both if one goes but it depends on if you are going for vehicle reliability or cost reduction. That money could go toward a GM (heresy). I like to replace things in pairs, like headlights.

I have seen bearings red hot so that might splain the burning smell but neither of mine did that and that would be a different smell than brakes? The problem stinks.
 

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Bearings are light headlight bulbs, you change the one that's burnt out, and the other side goes **** a month later. Broken heart syndrome! I agree with the other poster, get dirty once. The bearings have identical hours in your hubs, swap em both out, the other side may last, but do you really want to diagnose your noise all over again?

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Bearings are light headlight bulbs, you change the one that's burnt out, and the other side goes **** a month later. Broken heart syndrome! I agree with the other poster, get dirty once. The bearings have identical hours in your hubs, swap em both out, the other side may last, but do you really want to diagnose your noise all over again?

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doesn't bother me

when it happens again I will know exactly what to do like I did the first time
 

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Instead of continuing to throw money at this thing you should go buy that new GM you been talking about :)


Hehe I can't afford a brand new one, maybe a 2015-16. Remember talk is cheap ;). I throw money at em till there down for the count, (Motor or tranny). Probably will be the next venture though, by then it may be a 2018 model year or whatever is lightly used then.


JExpedition07 Agree about talk is cheap Just look at who you replied to
 

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I'm first in line to be efficient with money (frugal) but there are times when it's more than appropriate to put a crowbar in the ol' wallet and lay down some cash. Case in point .. I have never owned a snowblower, always shoveled the snow until 2 days ago I bought an Ariens Platinum 24 SHO. I did my homework and bought the absolute best tool for my own personal situation without regard to cost. Now I wish it would snow!!! Rant over.
 

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I typically do bearings has a pair because I've had a bearing come completely apart on one of my GM cars so I dont fool around with those. I recently did both fronts because I was doing brakes and IWE's anyway but will be doing both rears shortly. I will say those rear axle nuts were a pain. I was doing rear brakes so I pulled the axle but just to anti seize it while I had access to it. My impact made easy work of it but I tried by had first and it was on there pretty good. I'd try to have a good size breaker bar on hand if I were you. The heavy hitter I used below

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Couple years ago walking around the block, neighbor was doing brakes - could not get bolt off. I went home and got breaker bar & socket, went back and broke socket. Went home got better socket - tried again broke breaker bar. Went home got SK breaker bar - got job done. He kept apologizing for my tools breaking. I told him I appreciated it, glad to know those cheap Pittsburgh tools are junk and the SK's are quality. Another useless story!
 
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I typically do bearings has a pair because I've had a bearing come completely apart on one of my GM cars so I dont fool around with those. I recently did both fronts because I was doing brakes and IWE's anyway but will be doing both rears shortly. I will say those rear axle nuts were a pain. I was doing rear brakes so I pulled the axle but just to anti seize it while I had access to it. My impact made easy work of it but I tried by had first and it was on there pretty good. I'd try to have a good size breaker bar on hand if I were you. The heavy hitter I used below

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Maybe I'll pick up a Dewalt Equivelnt to that, All my stuff is Dewalt 20V so to get a Milwaukee wouldn't be efficient in my case. I've probably got a grand in Dewalt power tools in the expy alone lol, love their stuff. My dad is a Milwaukee guy, they make a good tool. I'm sure that comes in handy.
 
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Well guys I cancelled the order on the wheel bearing. Just drove it on the thruway my truck was falling in and out of overdrive and it's revving on every shift. the trans has been acting a bit odd but after the fluid change it's been better, not today. Yesterday I thought I heard it randomly downshift for no reason twice, didn't think much if it, today she's going wild. I guess I'm opening up the search for a 2013-14 5.4L expy or a Tahoe/ Yukon. Trans is shifting erratically and dropping gears even at say 5th gear at 45 it will drop to fourth then third and rev on a flat surface. Brand new fluid and filter so it's time to say goodbye most likely. There is a few locally I may start looking tonight.
 
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I don't know but hey I spent a few years of my childhood in Hamburg. My dad was a manager of the Buffalo stamping plant before he passed away suddenly in 1967

sorry to hear about your trans
 
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I don't know but hey I spent a few years of my childhood in Hamburg. My dad was a manager of the Buffalo stamping plant before he passed away suddenly in 1967

sorry to hear about your trans

It's been acting up for some time but it's out of the blue bad today!
 
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Bummer on the trans issues.

Good luck in the hunt. I think you'll be happy staying with Ford!:):);)
 
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