2017 Water Leaks

[ReggieRudy]

I have a 2017 Ford Expedition Limited and it is leaking too. It just happened to me this weekend when it was raining all weekend. Mine is leaking in a couple of places. One is in the front floor board on the driver's side. The water was running down the left side of the car and was coming out around the Emergency brake. The other was above the captain's chairs in the 2nd row and water was pouring out of the air vent and the light on the driver's side of the car. The car had been sitting for about two hours and when we opened the door we saw water pouring in the car from the top.

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

I have a 2017 Ford Expedition Limited and it is leaking too. It just happened to me this weekend when it was raining all weekend. Mine is leaking in a couple of places. One is in the front floor board on the driver's side. The water was running down the left side of the car and was coming out around the Emergency brake. The other was above the captain's chairs in the 2nd row and water was pouring out of the air vent and the light on the driver's side of the car. The car had been sitting for about two hours and when we opened the door we saw water pouring in the car from the top.

Welcome to the forum. I’m sorry to hear about your water issue. I can honestly say that I haven’t experienced that. I parked out side for the first year and a half.

Can you tell us if you were parked on hill nose up or down or if you parked on a level surface when this happened?

 

[star-art]

For the front leak, check the area where the plastic "A" pillar molding meets the headliner above the driver's door. Is this soaked? If it is, the water may be getting in around the door weatherstrip, wicking through the fabric of the headliner, and running down the back side of the A-pillar molding into the dash. If not, it might be a leak coming from the moonroof (assuming you have one since it's a Limited).

 

[JVIP1973]

So I guess I am having similar water issues.
2017 Expedition El Limited
I purchased this brand new, no accidents and for the first 1 1/2 years it had been in the garage as an extra vehicle. Now that we are driving it every day we have had a weird water issue in the drivers side 3 rd row seat window area of the head liner.
It has been at my local Greenville Sc ford dealer.
Approximately 6 times now for the same leak.
So Far the dealer verified
1- sunroof drains are not the issue.
2- roof rack is not the issue
3 - replaced the power drivers side 3 rd row side window. 5 or 6 times
The leak has not changed
Nose up , nose down or parked flat it leaks out the same spot.
I can go through high pressure car washes. NO LEAKS
But every rain storm we have heavy or light I have water filling my drivers side only 3 rd row cup holder,storage compartment, and carpet on the same side is wet.
This has now been going on for 6 months and has been in the dealer for a total of 5-7 weeks with no resolution.
I picked it up last week with a no leak found but every weekend for the last 3 weekends in a row we have had rain and a wet interior. Yes I dried it up after each time I found water. We have to have a common issue here. I can say I have purchased many new fords over the years with no issues. I just want to find a resolution before I am out of warranty and before the mold starts inside my truck.

 

[99WhiteC5Coupe]

So I guess I am having similar water issues.
2017 Expedition El Limited
I purchased this brand new, no accidents and for the first 1 1/2 years it had been in the garage as an extra vehicle. Now that we are driving it every day we have had a weird water issue in the drivers side 3 rd row seat window area of the head liner.
It has been at my local Greenville Sc ford dealer.
Approximately 6 times now for the same leak.
So Far the dealer verified
1- sunroof drains are not the issue.
2- roof rack is not the issue
3 - replaced the power drivers side 3 rd row side window. 5 or 6 times
The leak has not changed
Nose up , nose down or parked flat it leaks out the same spot.
I can go through high pressure car washes. NO LEAKS
But every rain storm we have heavy or light I have water filling my drivers side only 3 rd row cup holder,storage compartment, and carpet on the same side is wet.
This has now been going on for 6 months and has been in the dealer for a total of 5-7 weeks with no resolution.
I picked it up last week with a no leak found but every weekend for the last 3 weekends in a row we have had rain and a wet interior. Yes I dried it up after each time I found water. We have to have a common issue here. I can say I have purchased many new fords over the years with no issues. I just want to find a resolution before I am out of warranty and before the mold starts inside my truck.

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I own a 2015 Ford Expediton Limited 4x4 - purchased new.

Your dealer technician(s) are incompetent. Have you tried another dealer? Good luck.

 

[pglei]

Just got wet in my new to me 50K mile 2017 EL at the stop sign at the end of my street about 1/2 cup water dropped on me. If there was a front passenger they would have been soaked with at least a 2 cups of water that dropped out from the cutout for the sunroof. The vehicle was parked in the driveway slight incline. Big rainstorm last night. Rained during the day yesterday vehicle was parked flat no issue. Betting that if it was backed in the driveway I wouldn't have had to turnaround to change this morning. Calling dealer soon.

 

[star-art]

Remember folks the headliner on our trucks is a plastic material with the fabric glued to the outside. That plastic doesn't pass water through it. So, if there's a leak in the roof, it can pool up over the headliner until it finds its way out somewhere. You probably had a bunch of water sitting up there and when you started moving it sloshed around and found a way out.

Because of the way the headliner is constructed, the leak might not be anywhere near where the water is being found. In my case, the leak was most likely directly over the driver's door but the water ended up dripping out of my dash near the parking brake release.

It doesn't help that our roofs have "stiffener" channels stamped into them that hold water. This can cause corrosion and also promote growth of certain organisms that eat through paint over time. Once the paint is compromised, the rust begins and that can lead to holes in the roof.

With all the issues people have been having, it seems most of them have moonroofs. So, that could be the most likely culprit. After that, I would look at roof rack penetration points, the satellite antenna, and don't forget to make a careful inspection of *all* body opening weatherstripping. In my last truck, the front door had been replaced. When reinstalling the weatherstrip around the opening, they didn't pinch it closed tight enough at the very top center. That was just enough to let water in. But, the water wasn't visible at the place where the leak was happening so it took a while to track it down.

 

[powerboatr]

front A pillar area is almost always clogged sun roof drains. they run through the A pillar. could be clogged at end under truck , which is easy
its a small tube

that pic of the rear area...did you look at the big vent window to make sure its closed or the seal is not twisted or bent?
i never open mine, not sure why they even have it as an operable vent

 

[lbv150]

For what it's worth, I have worked on a few Expeditions that had tree nuts stored above the headliners...I have no idea how the rodents get up there to do that. So there has to be an opening/leak point somewhere.

 

[powerboatr]

For what it's worth, I have worked on a few Expeditions that had tree nuts stored above the headliners...I have no idea how the rodents get up there to do that. So there has to be an opening/leak point somewhere.

omg that would suck
but rodents can do some amazing seek and destroy missions
our neighbors KIA ad all its under hood wiring insulation eaten by a squirrel
turns out the insulation is made from SOY instead of petroleum and almost all the cars now have wiring insulated with soy based products. so now the wiring comes infused with capsacian so the critters wont eat it....hilarious

 

[hueyf4i]

omg that would suck
but rodents can do some amazing seek and destroy missions
our neighbors KIA ad all its under hood wiring insulation eaten by a squirrel
turns out the insulation is made from SOY instead of petroleum and almost all the cars now have wiring insulated with soy based products. so now the wiring comes infused with capsacian so the critters wont eat it....hilarious

So if you start to get teary eyed while driving, your wiring is starting to fry[emoji1787]

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[Langer]

Crazy that this old post pops up right when I have issues with my 2017 XLT 4x4 (no sunroof). Heard a lot of sloshing when driving and turning, upon inspection found wet carpet on passenger side front and rear. I pulled the plastic fuse panel cover, then panel it connects to, and the floor panel and found the channel FULL. Does anyone know if water is designed to get in here, and since we’ve had almost 4 inches of rain here over the last 1.5 days, it’s just accumulated faster than it can drain? I would be inclined to think not, since there is a large bloom of wires going from the fuse panel to the rear of the truck. Any insight would be appreciated. Some of the pictures I took after pulling the rubber grommets from the channel to allow draining. The truck is parked on a slight incline in my driveway, maybe a little more than 1 degree according to the “off road” section on the dash.

 

[HawkX66]

Just got wet in my new to me 50K mile 2017 EL at the stop sign at the end of my street about 1/2 cup water dropped on me. If there was a front passenger they would have been soaked with at least a 2 cups of water that dropped out from the cutout for the sunroof. The vehicle was parked in the driveway slight incline. Big rainstorm last night. Rained during the day yesterday vehicle was parked flat no issue. Betting that if it was backed in the driveway I wouldn't have had to turnaround to change this morning. Calling dealer soon.

Are you sure it wasn't anything more than the water that sits in the grooves on the roof? It happened on my 07 and happens on my 17. I make sure I hit the brakes or the gas at least once before I open the roof. I've forgotten once or twice and the wife lets me know it if it goes to her side lol

 

[Langer]

Are you sure it wasn't anything more than the water that sits in the grooves on the roof? It happened on my 07 and happens on my 17. I make sure I hit the brakes or the gas at least once before I open the roof. I've forgotten once or twice and the wife lets me know it if it goes to her side lol

Pretty sure, there was 1-2 inches of water inside that channel, the front passenger door wasn’t opened until I started investigating after hearing water sloshing around, and that carpet was soaked. My wife sat in back with my infant son, she didn’t note any water spilling on her when opening the door, that carpet was soaked in addition to the channel being full.

 

[HawkX66]

Pretty sure, there was 1-2 inches of water inside that channel, the front passenger door wasn’t opened until I started investigating after hearing water sloshing around, and that carpet was soaked. My wife sat in back with my infant son, she didn’t note any water spilling on her when opening the door, that carpet was soaked in addition to the channel being full.

I hear you on yours. That was quite a bit of water. I was referring specifically to his. It sounded an awful lot like what I described.

 

[star-art]

On the passenger side getting wet at the door, first check the drain holes in the bottom of your doors. Make sure they aren't clogged. If that happens, water can build up inside the door itself.

Now, open the front door. Check for Stink bugs wedged in and around the weatherstripping. Yes, these nasty buggers can cause leaks! Been there. . .

Next, carefully remove the weatherstrip around the door opening in the body (it just pulls off). Be sure to go all the way around. The weatherstrip has metal inside so it can grip the pinch weld in the sheet metal around the door opening.

As you remove the weatherstrip, check to make sure no portion of it has been pried or left open in such a way that it won't have a tight grip on that pinch weld. Also check the pinch weld itself for metal burrs and remove those with a file (they can keep the weatherstrip from sealing properly). If you scratch through the paint while doing this, be sure to touch it up.

If any portion of the weatherstrip was pried open, gently squeeze it closed again with your fingers. It should be open just enough to fit onto the pinch weld but no more.

Reinstall the weatherstrip, making sure to gently squeeze it fully closed all the way around the opening. It should grip snugly.

You might want to repeat all this for the rear passenger door, just in case. . .

 

[Langer]

On the passenger side getting wet at the door, first check the drain holes in the bottom of your doors. Make sure they aren't clogged. If that happens, water can build up inside the door itself.

Now, open the front door. Check for Stink bugs wedged in and around the weatherstripping. Yes, these nasty buggers can cause leaks! Been there. . .

Next, carefully remove the weatherstrip around the door opening in the body (it just pulls off). Be sure to go all the way around. The weatherstrip has metal inside so it can grip the pinch weld in the sheet metal around the door opening.

As you remove the weatherstrip, check to make sure no portion of it has been pried or left open in such a way that it won't have a tight grip on that pinch weld. Also check the pinch weld itself for metal burrs and remove those with a file (they can keep the weatherstrip from sealing properly). If you scratch through the paint while doing this, be sure to touch it up.

If any portion of the weatherstrip was pried open, gently squeeze it closed again with your fingers. It should be open just enough to fit onto the pinch weld but no more.

Reinstall the weatherstrip, making sure to gently squeeze it fully closed all the way around the opening. It should grip snugly.

You might want to repeat all this for the rear passenger door, just in case. . .

What do the drains look like/where are they? I found the grommets in the channel, but I wouldn’t want to leave those out. I pulled driver’s side panels and it was only mildly damp in the channel, no standing water, so that must be functioning ok...

 

[star-art]

Door drain hole location??

Below is a picture of the door on an F150 but I would imagine ours is similar?

 

[Joel Maxfield]

I know this post has been around a while but I wanted to follow up as I am experiencing a similar issue. I have a 2017 Expedition EL Platinum that has been having water issues since I bought it band new. My issue is the Back windows is leaking but I can never see it leak, I do however notice it by checking the rear passenger seat belt, its always wet after a rain (Second row not the third row). I have had mine in the shop for over a month for them working on this issue. The first time they never found the issue (1 week). The second time they found the issue and it took them 3 weeks to order parts and replace all the seals, only to have it leak the next day it rained. I have seen that when I park on a incline (uphill) like a driveway or a hill it leaks much more that if I am parked in a flat parking lot. So today I dropped off my Expedition again for them to work on this issue that I am afraid will not be resolved. I am worried I have a lemon but I already have 23k miles on it so I think I might have missed an opportunity to get Ford to buy it back. In MD lemon law is 2 years or 18,000 mile.

 

[star-art]

This may sound like a radical suggestion, but have them take the headliner out and leave it out for a while. Then, put the vehicle through all the leak tests. I suspect the plastic headliner -- which is impervious to water -- may be "misdirecting" people by helping to hide the true location of the leak. Wherever water is getting in, it pools and/or runs along the top surface of the headliner until it finds a way out. Thus, where you see water dripping may not be anywhere near where the leak actually is. . .