4DTech Auto Start/Stop?

[UpsideDownIn]

Anyone have experience with their CANopner product plugged into their Expy? Any power drain or noticeable side effect? Thanks.

 

[LokiWolf]

Anyone have experience with their CANopner product plugged into their Expy? Any power drain or noticeable side effect? Thanks.

Do the Auto Start/Stop Eliminator.

The CanOpener makes the same change that FORSCAN does. It turns off the BCM(Battery Charge Management) system. This is NOT a good thing. It basically means your charging system is running at Full tilt all the time. This is not good for the battery.

The Auto Start/Stop Eliminator is a hardware install that allows the A/S off button to stay in the off position across vehicle restarts. It is a memory for the button basically. Doesn’t mess with any other systems.


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[UpsideDownIn]

I'm looking at the one for the 2020 Expy. Wondering if it's a different version.

https://www.4dtech.com/start-stop-eliminator-20-expedition/

 

[LokiWolf]

I'm looking at the one for the 2020 Expy. Wondering if it's a different version.

https://www.4dtech.com/start-stop-eliminator-20-expedition/

Nice! They came out with a new version. It works like the other Auto Start Stop eliminator, but it looks like the install might be easier.

For everything I do going through the OBDII(Programming, Tuning, Logging), I will still be going with this:

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/...on-autostop-eliminator?variant=29396654161984

The harness type. That works with 2020. I don’t want anything that would either occupy the port, or interfere with the Data signal during programming or logging.


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[Expedition Dave]

So to clarify, even via Forescan, disabling the A/S shuts down the battery cutoff, correct? Same with the other product, mentioned right Loki? The only true way to eliminate A/S is to use that switch harness behind the dash?

 

[wakeboarder]

I wonder if they could do a few things on my wish list with a similar device.
1. Remember cruise on/off from last drive (not the set point)
2. Add beeping to when blind spot is flashing.
3.drive mode memory for 4wd and maybe 2wd’s
4. Rear ESLD lock mode for 2wd’s.
I think all these things are communicated over the CAN network. Would they be available at the obd port?

Maybe it could have dip switches for the options and a pushbutton for the ESLD.

 

[LokiWolf]

So to clarify, even via Forescan, disabling the A/S shuts down the battery cutoff, correct? Same with the other product, mentioned right Loki? The only true way to eliminate A/S is to use that switch harness behind the dash?

The older CanOpener device used the method commonly used via FORSCAN which turns off BCM. That is not the one the OP linked. I made an assumption.

The one listed above by the OP listed for 20+ just remembers the setting, and does it in the correct way in my opinion.

If you choose the one I linked, only the behind the switch version works for the 20+. I think that is a cleaner install in my opinion. It is out of site, even to a Ford Tech unless they take dash apart, and has no risk of interfering with other OBDII uses(Tuning, FORSCAN, code reading).

FYI, as we have learned from doing FORSCAN, DO NOT assume that something electronic, or programming wise that worked with the 18/19 will work for 20+. As I have learned from getting tunes for this thing, Ford changed a bunch of programming and modules around.


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[UpsideDownIn]

2. Add beeping to when blind spot is flashing.

That would be super awesome.

 

[mquick5]

That would be super awesome.

Or super annoying???

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[UpsideDownIn]

Or super annoying???

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If you're blinkers are on of course.

 

[aggiegrad05]

If you're blinkers are on of course.

I support this. Many many vehicles flash a warning on the dash if you flip on your blinker while someone is in your blind spot...”hey dummy, there’s someone there!!!” By no means do I rely solely on the BLISS to change lanes, but I’m not perfect and I’ve almost changed lanes into someone before; something a little more obvious than a tiny blinking light on the wing mirror would be helpful.

 

[rob4092xx]

So if I understand this correctly, the $99.00 version takes nothing more than plugging into the OBDI port? No wires to hook up?

 

[UpsideDownIn]

So if I understand this correctly, the $99.00 version takes nothing more than plugging into the OBDI port? No wires to hook up?

That's what it looks like. There seems to be a slight power draw when the truck is off, but the maker mentioned it can be left off for weeks with no problems.

 

[rob4092xx]

Interestingly....my Auto On/Off on my 2018 worked for the first six months or so. Hasn't activated in the past two years which is okay by me. Strange?

 

[UpsideDownIn]

Interestingly....my Auto On/Off on my 2018 worked for the first six months or so. Hasn't activated in the past two years which is okay by me. Strange?

Certain conditions will turn it off. If you are in 4-wheel drive mode or any non-normal driving mode it gets turned off, along with car temp (warming up), anything that requires more power (i.e. keeping up with climate control), and if you are towing.

 

[Alwaysthinkin]

Nice! They came out with a new version. It works like the other Auto Start Stop eliminator, but it looks like the install might be easier.

For everything I do going through the OBDII(Programming, Tuning, Logging), I will still be going with this:

https://www.autostopeliminator.com/...on-autostop-eliminator?variant=29396654161984

The harness type. That works with 2020. I don’t want anything that would either occupy the port, or interfere with the Data signal during programming or logging.


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@LokiWolf , is the autostopeliminator you provided a link to still the best way (in your estimation) to go? This is the single most important change I want to make. Double honk is next.....

 

[LokiWolf]

@LokiWolf , is the autostopeliminator you provided a link to still the best way (in your estimation) to go? This is the single most important change I want to make. Double honk is next.....

Yes! The harness based one is the better option.


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[Alwaysthinkin]

Yes! The harness based one is the better option.


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@LokiWolf , thanks again!

 

[Alwaysthinkin]

@LokiWolf , thanks again!

So I ordered the Autostop Eliminator using the link provided by @LokiWolf and discovered a discount code that worked just now. Use the discount code FBGM and it takes 15% off. Shipping was also free but don't know if the code was responsible for that. So, the harness version was listed at $89.99 - $13.49 = $76.50 with free shipping. Just in case anyone else is interested and likes saving a couple of bucks.
FYI, make sure you purchase off that site. It appears some others are out there that are cheap knockoffs that I was directed to while searching for a discount code.

 

[Phil2D2]

Free shipping + discount code was enough to push this from wish list item to on its way. Thanks all