Rear Sway bar?

[Jamaican Cruiser]

All,
New to Forum and just picking up this thread, which has a ton of useful information. I recently did the 2000+ mile with my 2019 Expedition and have taken some of the lovely drives on Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway, and I definitely am in the market for upgraded sway bars for my vehicle. I tried following the thread, but when I go to the Hellwig site, they are still not showing a fit for 2019 Expeditions.

I want to be sure I purchase something that will fit, so I am looking for the latest information. I will likely do both front and rear and from the notes I took, need @Hellwig #7696 for the front and 7688 for the rear. There was talk of fitment issues and I wanted to verify that those numbers are still valid.

One final question. Has anyone noticed an impact when using the Lane Assist with upgraded sway bars?

Thank you in advance

 

[Deadman]

All,
New to Forum and just picking up this thread, which has a ton of useful information. I recently did the 2000+ mile with my 2019 Expedition and have taken some of the lovely drives on Skyline Drive and the Blue Ridge Parkway, and I definitely am in the market for upgraded sway bars for my vehicle. I tried following the thread, but when I go to the Hellwig site, they are still not showing a fit for 2019 Expeditions.

I want to be sure I purchase something that will fit, so I am looking for the latest information. I will likely do both front and rear and from the notes I took, need @Wellwig #7696 for the front and 7688 for the rear. There was talk of fitment issues and I wanted to verify that those numbers are still valid.

One final question. Has anyone noticed an impact when using the Lane Assist with upgraded sway bars?

Thank you in advance

I didn't cross reference the part numbers, but the 2018-2020 are all the same.
I don't use any lane assist, but I'm sure it won't affect anything as its just a mechanical change.

 

[Zig10]

Zero change on lane keep assist. Still works fine.

 

[Deadman]

I just put the front sway bar on last night and it ends the bobble-head BS. It finally handles and rides like it should. No pitching on driveway approaches, not leaning tower in corners, no more sway on back roads and uneven surfaces. It lays FLAT on the road now and flies thru round-about in comparison to the butter soft factory sway bars. HUGE handling improvement. It rides probably 10% stiffer, like it NEEDED. It was so sloppy soft prior to the aftermarket sway bars.
Best money I've spent in a long time. My wife was so glad the bobble-head BS ended. She was annoyed beyond belief from it. I could watch her road rock left to right on every uneven backroad or smaller highway.
Took 10 minutes to install it. Took longer to find the tools than it did to install it.

 

[DWs-TTEB]

I just put the front sway bar on last night and it ends the bobble-head BS. It finally handles and rides like it should. No pitching on driveway approaches, not leaning tower in corners, no more sway on back roads and uneven surfaces. It lays FLAT on the road now and flies thru round-about in comparison to the butter soft factory sway bars. HUGE handling improvement. It rides probably 10% stiffer, like it NEEDED. It was so sloppy soft prior to the aftermarket sway bars.
Best money I've spent in a long time. My wife was so glad the bobble-head BS ended. She was annoyed beyond belief from it. I could watch her road rock left to right on every uneven backroad or smaller highway.
Took 10 minutes to install it. Took longer to find the tools than it did to install it.

Can you please post the manufacturer & part number here for this sway bar of AWESOMENESS or screen shot of invoice?

 

[duneslider]

I just put the front sway bar on last night and it ends the bobble-head BS. It finally handles and rides like it should. No pitching on driveway approaches, not leaning tower in corners, no more sway on back roads and uneven surfaces. It lays FLAT on the road now and flies thru round-about in comparison to the butter soft factory sway bars. HUGE handling improvement. It rides probably 10% stiffer, like it NEEDED. It was so sloppy soft prior to the aftermarket sway bars.
Best money I've spent in a long time. My wife was so glad the bobble-head BS ended. She was annoyed beyond belief from it. I could watch her road rock left to right on every uneven backroad or smaller highway.
Took 10 minutes to install it. Took longer to find the tools than it did to install it.

Good to hear. Do you tow trailers or do any offroad driving? Curious to see what kind of affects that it has on towing stability and offroad ride?

 

[Deadman]

Can you please post the manufacturer & part number here for this sway bar of AWESOMENESS or screen shot of invoice?

https://www.hellwigproducts.com/products/search-by-vehicle/?Year1=2018&Make=Ford&Model=Expedition

 

[Deadman]

Good to hear. Do you tow trailers or do any offroad driving? Curious to see what kind of affects that it has on towing stability and offroad ride?

I don't do any serious off roading, I have a UTV and 3/4 ton for the big jobs and off roading.
I will guarantee this thing will absolutely tow with less sway/movement etc that it had stock. Mine swayed with no trailer on it. It runs straight as an arrow now. It corners 10X flatter instead of leaning over like a leaning tower! It rides probably 10% stiffer, which it NEEDED to get ride of that sloppy swaying feeling on the backroads. It will smoke my wifes black label Navigator L thru a round-about now! lol.

If you like it floaty and sloppy, then this bar isn't for you. If you want it to give a more confident feeling on the road and added stability and cornering, this thing is great. I bet towing this would be the single biggest improvement into handling at speed with wind and semi traffic.

 

[sjwelds]

So if you had to do it over, would you do the front only? Or still both front and rear?

 

[Deadman]

So if you had to do it over, would you do the front only? Or still both front and rear?

Oh, it needs them both. The rear stopped the rear end from wagging its tail like a happy dog as you drive down the road. The front made it handle a lot flatter in general. I would say the rear is most important because the rear suspension is so horrible, but the front really helped it corner flat and stop the last of the bobble head action.

 

[NukeLife]

Appreciate the shared knowledge Deadman. I’ve been on the fence about whether to trade up to the Nav.
But I really like my Platty. If this can cure my ridiculous porpoising and rocking—on the CCD suspension—I’m all in.

 

[LokiWolf]

Appreciate the shared knowledge Deadman. I’ve been on the fence about whether to trade up to the Nav.
But I really like my Platty. If this can cure my ridiculous porpoising and rocking—on the CCD suspension—I’m all in.

Wouldn’t the Navi have the same problem, since it is the same suspension?


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[Deadman]

Wouldn’t the Navi have the same problem, since it is the same suspension?


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I just bought a 18 Navigator L 4x4 Black Label and it DOES NOT bobble-head and do all the ridiculous movement the Expedition does stock. Its all in the ****** rebound dampening in the shocks. The rebound dampening is way to soft, so the vehicle goes into a dip and then springs back up TOO far which causes it to then dip down the other way and get into a violent side to side rocking motion if you get on just the right road surfaces.

If you throw it in sport the side to side action gets a lot better, but then the transmission shifts like a 16 year old boy would like it to! lol.

 

[Jamaican Cruiser]

Deadman,
You are my new hero . Did you only do the sway bars or did you also do "rod inks". I am not quite sold on the links, so checking is you had any experience with them.

Following your footsteps very soon.

 

[whizkid]

Mine is on order. Keeps getting pushed out on delivery. I’m up to end of October now. . . Can’t wait.


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[Deadman]

Deadman,
You are my new hero . Did you only do the sway bars or did you also do "rod inks". I am not quite sold on the links, so checking is you had any experience with them.

Following your footsteps very soon.

Mine only has 13,000 miles on it, so my factory end links are still in good shape. If you are high miles, you might consider replacing them, but really not necessary.

I just did the sway bars. The ride is definitely stiffer, which was needed. You do feel the small cracks a tiny bit more, but otherwise it rode like grannys 1980 Fleetwood! Mine was all over the damn road and floated like it lost its mind. My wife absolutely refused to drive it in anything but sport because it was all over the place and bobbing up and down and side to side. She can't believe how much better it is now! It just doesn't have the steam that her 3.5L HO has in her Navigator!

 

[AParamedic]

Thanks to everyone for the tips. As a point of reference, the 7688 fit my 2018 XLT with FX4 perfectly. Helpful to have on hand is a 15mm ratcheting combination wrench (https://www.homedepot.com/p/Husky-15-mm-Reversible-Ratcheting-Combination-Wrench-HRRW15MM/202942560) and a 6mm socket wrench when disconnecting or connecting the ends of the antisway bar.

Only had 5 minutes to take it for a spin after installation and I agree it did improve the side-to-side lean.

I'm considering adding the 7696 front end antisway bar but I'm curious to see if upgrading the front and rear makes a huge difference vs doing just the rear alone?

 

[Deadman]

The rear bar was more noticeable in the leaning and the rear end swaying all the time.

The front bar later made it handle much flatter overall and finished off the side to side jostling that it gives non stop on backroads.
If I was short on cash I'd do the rear. If I liked it to handle a ton better and stop the bobblehead BS, then I'd get both again.

 

[5280tunage]

I never really notice the sway, I just figure a figure that acts more like a wall in the wind, and is taller than I am, will likely have some sway. It's simply a matter of momentum. Unless the wheels are place a foot outward one each side (like Mr. T's van with flares or like a bike with training wheels), not sure what you do.

With that said, I have both the front and rear sway bars and while I completely believe they made a difference, I think the links are pretty shoddy and weak as well. I didn't find any aftermarket links that would be beefier. But I've also done sway bars on every Jeep I've ever owned, just a habit at this point.

 

[Nate2020KR]

Where did you guys order your sway bars from? I see that they are special order from everywhere. And direct from Hellwig they add a $50 special order fee to each bar. Summit Racing is the way I'm leaning.