2008 V-8 vs. 2016 V-6 on the Road

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LokiWolf

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Have you had any motor or transmission issues with the ecoboost, tow much with it? I have a 100k powertrain warranty on mine and plan on keeping it till that warranty is up (67k more miles to go)...

I have towed many times in the 2500 range and 4 times over 6K. Factoring in it is rated over 9K, I didn’t expect any issues and didn’t have any. VA has small mountains, but one of the 6K trips was over several mountain passes with no issues whatsoever. Put in in Tow/Haul and just went.

We had a 15 that was totaled, put about 30K on it, and now have the 17, with almost 20K, no issues with either.
 

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FWIW: I turned over 40,000 miles on my way to work this week....5-6 oil changes, 1 air filter, 1 tire rotation....use the press/release stop method and have zero pulsing in the brakes(which was an issue on both prior trucks) and have never had anything, ANYTHING break or not work as it should.

Now, after 3 more of these 40K reports....if they all read like this one, I'll be happy!

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I defended with Numbers and Dyno Data, yet he still ignored it, and redirected to a different manufacturer’s engine. Then said the Chevy 6.2 would get better MPG, yet the EPA numbers are quite the opposite. Still nothing

Looks like you need to look at the MPG numbers again, your expy does NOT get as good fuel economy as the 6.2L, your 2017 eb is rated at 15/19 and the 2017 6.2 Tahoe/Yukon is rated at 14/22 squarely beating out the ecoboost. GM is coming out with a new generation of the 6.2L for 2020 so then we can get a fair mpg matchup on the current. TFL just did some real world testing towing the 6.2 vs ecoboost and the 6.2L returned quite better MPGs.
 
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Who cares. Your an Ecoboost hater, it’s been proven on here time and time again. When you start losing (it’s a debate now remember) you always revert back to the 6.2 or the GM motors to somehow validate your argument. You’re a broken record dude.

I’m now convinced you’re just post *******.
 

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Who cares. Your an Ecoboost hater, it’s been proven on here time and time again. When you start losing (it’s a debate now remember) you always revert back to the 6.2 or the GM motors to somehow validate your argument. You’re a broken record dude.

I’m now convinced you’re just post *******.

Oh so it’s “who cares” when you’re wrong? It’s ok I get it, you’re a N/A V8 hater..... you’ve shown that many times. Love my 5.4L!
 
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Oh so it’s “who cares” when you’re wrong? It’s ok I get it, you’re a N/A V8 hater..... you’ve shown that many times.

Nope. I don’t go in the posts about mechanical issues on the 5.4, and start trashing it. You do every time somebody mentions an issue with the EB.

Again, owned 2, loved them. Have moved on to newer, more powerful things. I don’t trash the V8’s, I just enjoy my Turbos and their power potential.
 

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Nope. I don’t go in the posts about mechanical issues on the 5.4, and start trashing it. You do every time somebody mentions an issue with the EB.

Again, owned 2, loved them. Have moved on to newer, more powerful things. I don’t trash the V8’s, I just enjoy my Turbos and their power potential.

I don’t recall going in an ecoboost problem thread and commenting badly on it but ok.... I don’t “trash their reliability” my first comment here was “I wouldn’t say it’s an inferior product”. It’s not a bad motor it’s not my choice and I gave my reasons, and you gave yours.
 

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Looks like you need to look at the MPG numbers again, your expy does NOT get as good fuel economy as the 6.2L, your 2017 eb is rated at 15/19 and the 2017 6.2 Tahoe/Yukon is rated at 14/22 squarely beating out the ecoboost. GM is coming out with a new generation of the 6.2L for 2020 so then we can get a fair mpg matchup on the current. TFL just did some real world testing towing the 6.2 vs ecoboost and the 6.2L returned quite better MPGs.

Oh, My bad I compared current vehicle to current vehicle. 2018 to 2018. Was that too hard for you to comprehend?

So a 2500 class truck did better at towing than a 1500 truck? Really, I am surprised. [emoji57]. Dude, I love TFL and I liked the comparison, but not surprised.
 

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Loki it was a Yukon Denali vs 2018 Expedition..... there was no 3/4 ton. 2018 V. 2018. Again I don’t hate the ecoboost it’s just not my choice, it’s a reliable powerful platform..... and I’ve said it a dozen times on here.
 

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I don’t recall going in an ecoboost problem thread and commenting badly on it but ok.... I don’t “trash their reliability” my first comment here was “I wouldn’t say it’s an inferior product”. It’s not a bad motor it’s not my choice and I gave my reasons, and you gave yours.

Yet EVERY thread that mentions a bad impression or issue with the EB you trash it. Nobody will disagree with me on that except you.

You say you don’t but multiple times you have made statements quite to the opposite.

Moving on. Thanks for the distraction for the past few days. Gotta go make some money...so I can buy the mythical 6.2 in the Expedition when they release it!
 

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Loki it was a Yukon Denali vs 2018 Expedition..... there was no 3/4 ton. 2018 V. 2018. Again I don’t hate the ecoboost it’s just not my choice, it’s a reliable powerful platform..... and I’ve said it a dozen times on here.

My bad, didn’t they compare a 6.2 250 recently to an EB 150? Am I imagining things?

Maybe I am. Need more coffee. Been fun.
 

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By the way I also traded in my 2016 Camaro SS (455HP/455lb-ft) with the Sequoia on the 17 Expedition. The SS was a great deal of fun, too much power (when you hit 130mph passing quickly) great handling/brakes and I was averaging 23mpg even with a lead foot. GM does a great job with their transmission and shut down to 4 cylinders although mine started showing signs of the dreaded torque converter issue plaguing them (just look at the camaro forums). It will be fixed under warranty.

My life changed and the Camaro was no longer useful and I needed to lower my monthly expenses. Otherwise I would have been happy to keep both for a long time.

So for longevity is shutting down to 4 cylinder mode with the associated programming, transmission stresses and sensors a better method than twin turbo engines? Time will tell.

I do counter that turbo tech has been around for a very long time in the Diesel engine community.

Had a v-8 option been available for my purchase of the expedition, I not sure which way I would have went.
 
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So for longevity is shutting down to 4 cylinder mode with the associated programming, transmission stresses and sensors a better method than twin turbo engines? Time will tell.

Excellent point & objective!

Each "solution" brings it's completely own set of compromises, attributes and detractions but overall reliability is an easily comparable component....let's talk again in five years, right?

Or maybe ten?

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No one ever said she’s not fast man I’ve hammered down on a few they haul. But....... but....... here’s a 6.2L ford. TFL is about 1 mile above sea level so the V8s are at a disadvantage there. Sorry I’m just being my smart ass self..... no hate man. All these newer motors haul pretty good, what a time to be alive. Even my 5.4 sends me back into my seat when I punch it.

 
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I'll ignore this weeks episode of "Let's measure our d****" but I do appreciate the passion which each argues.....that's what missing from most women, passion. They all think they have it but very few do...anyway, different discussion and no, that wasn't any reference to our players as being woman, it was just a tangent.

Anyway, I got some sleep so this is prob going to be a bit wordy....sorry.

I agree that it is a great time to be alive..well all the time is... but especially for high performance engine lovers. Those of us that remember when 67 GTO with triple deuces ran the streets, the '68 Camaro, Barracuda's with impossibly large blk engines and more for the next couple years......to go to the neutered, reduced-valve-sized cars of the mid-70's through the late 80's....or we called it....

"The Time of Desolation"

Make no mistake...regardless of the re-written history.....the high performance cars were legislated out of existence not to save fuel but lives & ultimately money. The insurance industry took a VERY dim view of my H2 in 1974 and a dimmer view of the Hemi-anything........soon, they were all gone!

I took refuge in my two stroke street bikes.....and relived former glories on the weekends.

Then, there came a great engineering awakening....and it was begun not by the old hands of the manufacturers but by the bright young bold engineers who wanted to build something with a crapload more kick than their PC-Beaten parents had produced......

and the kids did well...beginning with their Ricer-rama's their talent quickly spread to Lexus, Honda, Toyota and the rest is history....now we live in a time where most, not all but most who work hard in life, can afford to buy a 500HP beast from the factory....not just onew car but a choice of 500+HP machines.....

The shift is on though....first to electric as several places such as China & the UK have agreed to the gas-vehicle ban beginning I THINK 2040 or is it 2042?

Enjoy it, because it will be gone all too soon....those of you that read know the writing on the wall. Local jurisdictions will begin to "outlaw" human driven cars. This will spread until the first city (& we all know what State is will happen) does it....once the cities ban human driven cans....well, I'd think the industry would stop offering them.

What will our grandkids tell their grandkids? Maybe just pictures...

jeff
 

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Have you had any motor or transmission issues with the ecoboost, tow much with it? I have a 100k powertrain warranty on mine and plan on keeping it till that warranty is up (67k more miles to go)...
coolzzy, I don't tow a lot, but I do tow our boat and a 30' travel trailer, and I have had zero issues. I bought a '16 fleet vehicle with 32k miles one year ago, and it now has 89k miles - almost 5k miles per month! I bought an extended warranty just in case, but (knock on wood) this Expy has been solid. I love this vehicle.
 
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