2018 lincoln navigator

[NASCAR Mike]

I just sold my 2005 Ford Excursion with 6.0 turbo diesel. I bought a 2017 Expedition EL. Size does matter!

The Excursion was wider and longer as witnessed by how much room i have in my garage next to my Mustang. The Excursion I could only open the driver door half way. The Expy I can open all the way!

I did get about 21MPG on the highway which was impressive. The only bad thing about the 6.0 was the EGR, variable vanes inside the turbo and head gaskets. I was able to delete the EGR and didn't have an issue with the head gaskets because I didn't add 40 lbs of boost with a tuner. The turbo on the other hand. The unison ring that allowed the variable vanes to open and close would rust in less than 10 days if you didn't drive it. With the vanes sticking you would get under boost and then a check engine light.

While I miss the size of my Excursion I will not miss the turbo rusting up. What a PITA!

 

[gtnator]

Does anyone else think the Platinum Expy is a “younger look”?


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[JExpedition07]

Yes^ I don't like the Navigator at all too bubbly. The expy looks younger and sportier. Same as 3rd gen expy vs Navigator. I can't stand the current ones taillights/headlights.

 

[MiddKid]

Does anyone else think the Platinum Expy is a “younger look”?

Platinum on order. We’re in our late 30s and both of us looked at the Navigator styling and didn’t like it. The Ford styling “felt” more us and more aligned with our young family of five!

 

[gtnator]

Platinum on order. We’re in our late 30s and both of us looked at the Navigator styling and didn’t like it. The Ford styling “felt” more us and more aligned with our young family of five!

Congrats! Out of curiosity, did you order the second row captains seats to keep the kids spread out or did you get the bench? I’m always interested in other dads’ thoughts on this.


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[dlcorbett]

Im not a dad but i getting a bench. The cpt chairs is very nice and i still hate the fact that ford refuses to put an armrest in the center section. For a young or new family the sliding middle seat and the extra seat itself is more than enough reason to get the bench.

 

[MiddKid]

Congrats! Out of curiosity, did you order the second row captains seats to keep the kids spread out or did you get the bench? I’m always interested in other dads’ thoughts on this.

Definitely the bench. We have our 3 kids in the back every single day and also typically have the dog in the cargo area. Having the third row up is the exception rather than the rule. I hate needing to rely on the third row.

We ski every weekend in the winter. Again, kids in the second row, ski gear in the back.

While the captains chairs may provide some comfort/access I’ll take the versatility of the bench any day.

 

[Artie]

Congrats! Out of curiosity, did you order the second row captains seats to keep the kids spread out or did you get the bench? I’m always interested in other dads’ thoughts on this.


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We have two kiddos in car seats and went with SWB Navi with bench seat. I’m curious to see how the new sliding seat allows for access to the 3rd row because we will carry adults in the back when the in-laws are in town.

 

[gtnator]

Definitely the bench. We have our 3 kids in the back every single day and also typically have the dog in the cargo area. Having the third row up is the exception rather than the rule. I hate needing to rely on the third row.

We ski every weekend in the winter. Again, kids in the second row, ski gear in the back.

While the captains chairs may provide some comfort/access I’ll take the versatility of the bench any day.

Thanks for your thoughts. SWB or LWB?


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[gtnator]

We have two kiddos in car seats and went with SWB Navi with bench seat. I’m curious to see how the new sliding seat allows for access to the 3rd row because we will carry adults in the back when the in-laws are in town.

Yes, I’m curious about that too. From the videos I’ve seen it looks really easy to use. For us the question will be whether it’s so easy to operate that a 5 year old can do it by himself. If he can then I’d lean towards the bench, if he can’t then definitely captains seats with the LWB (Max) for me.


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[Artie]

Yes, I’m curious about that too. From the videos I’ve seen it looks really easy to use. For us the question will be whether it’s so easy to operate that a 5 year old can do it by himself. If he can then I’d lean towards the bench, if he can’t then definitely captains seats with the LWB (Max) for me.


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The seat folding forwards to grant access to the 3rd row appears to be operated by a latch on the shoulder of the seat itself so assuming a 5 year old is tall enough to reach that switch I’m sure it doesn’t require too much effort.

 

[MiddKid]

Thanks for your thoughts. SWB or LWB?

LWB. Although our dealer is ordering the same config in SWB just in case we feel it’s too big.

Had a Sequoia for almost 10 years...excited to get a bunch more room behind that 3rd row!

 

[dlcorbett]

On the limited and plat models(xlt
W/ 202) the sec row will slif forward with the button press on the c pillar. I wpuld like the max version for the fuel range but wifey thinks a bit 2 big.

 

[cekkk]

I've had five Ford full size SUVs, a '54 station wagon, an E-150, an F-250D and an F-350D. Having said that, Ford has always taken a back seat to GM when it comes to style and colors. Nothing's changed IMO. My wife's '13 King Ranch Expy looks way better than the big Explorer they call the 2018 Expedition.

And while I'd prefer my '14 Yukon Denali was an Expedition, I can't deny it's beautiful.

As for the Navigator, as I said before, it's ugly. What's with those wheels?

 

[ExpeditionAndy]

Our kids are all in their 20s now so when I bought the 17 it had the captain's chairs in the second row, I didn't think I would like them at first, but they have grown on me. My only complaint is when I use it to haul light stuff like my model airplanes, I have to cover the gap between the two seats and the space between the 2nd and third rows. I'm still waiting for our local dealer to get one in so I can see it. It would be crazy to trade a 17 in on an 18 so I may have to wait a couple of years before I do it.

On the limited and plat models(xlt
W/ 202) the sec row will slif forward with the button press on the c pillar. I wpuld like the max version for the fuel range but wifey thinks a bit 2 big.

I had the short wheel base 05 and now have the 17 EL, I can tell you that the extra 14" or so wasn't even noticeable. Go for the Max you'll be glad you did, if only for the extra space behind the 3rd row.

 

[Artie]

On the limited and plat models(xlt
W/ 202) the sec row will slif forward with the button press on the c pillar. I wpuld like the max version for the fuel range but wifey thinks a bit 2 big.

I think the button you are referring to lays the seats flat for maximum storage. There is also a lever that allows the seat to stay upright but tilt forward allowing you to step behind the seat to gain access to the 3rd row.

 

[hunter991]

Whoever designed the wheels needs to be fired. Just ruins the entire truck.

 

[dlcorbett]

This video shows the rep holding thr button and it slides forward

 

[dlcorbett]

designed the wheels needs to be fired. Just ruins the entire truck.

Which wheels are you referring to?

 

[Artie]

This video shows the rep holding thr button and it slides forward

Oh cool! Yeah I don’t know why I thought it was on the seat itself, clearly not. Thanks, I haven’t seen that video before.