Hulkster
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Sorry I was talking about the 2017-2020 f150 trans causing supposedly whiplash and the Ford Focus that had lunging trans issues. I just didn’t wanna bring into this forum
5.4L 3V and 3.5 Twin Turbo Counterfeit Spark Plugs
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What does a Transmission have to do with Spark Plugs?
I appreciate your apology, but again I ask, please put down the phone and walk away.
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Hulkster
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The person asked me a question that i quoted. Also you compared what you said to a dog is that correct???? So im a dog? lol
Nope. Not a dog. Just using similar tactics I use for training. Repeat, repeat, repeat. Sorry. No insult meant by it. Just calling it as I see it.
You came in to a thread that had already gone off the rails and made it worse.
You made a comment about dangerous situations caused by Motors? Then mention transmissions...that aren’t even in the Expedition generation where this Post is.
All because somebody spouted off some drivel about China and stealing intellectual property...which by the way wasn’t completely wrong(There are WHOLE cars in China that are copies of other manufacturers). Is it just a China thing? Nope. Do the fake plugs and the right plugs both probably come from China, most likely yes.
I won’t be replying to your comments in this thread anymore unless they are actually Spark Plug related.
Bottom line...and I say it again.
Put the phone down and step away.
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JExpedition07
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Loki you may not realize but you may have made a great point! The country of origin is something to check for on the boxes. The SP-546 is made via Honeywell’s spark plug facility in Mexico. Last I knew the SP-509 was Japan, and I believe the SP-543 is Japan as well. I will try and verify this information.
Look at that! Blind Squirrel and all!
I solve it by paying a little more and getting them from vendor that I know verifies they are correct before sending them to me. He also gaps them how they need to be. Saves me a step!
Thanks J for the Post. The Spark plug discussion in here is excellent!
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JExpedition07
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The Motorcraft spark plugs made by Honeywell for earlier 3rd gens are made in one of their two facilities in Northern Ohio or Mexico it says (F-150 thread where they contacted the maker). So the country of origins for the Honeywell based MotorCraft plugs are USA or Mexico on the boxes. I’m not sure who makes the 509 and 542 and I’m looking into it but coming up dry.
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I have a box of SP542’s in my Garage. I will take a look at those when I get home this evening!
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JExpedition07
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It looks like the newer 5.4 and 3.5 plugs are made by NGK so I’m guessing they will say Japan but we shall see! We await your box!
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JExpedition07
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Cool so just to straighten out my statements that may seem confusing when read one after another—>If you are an 07-08 owner look for USA or Mexico on the box, if you own an 09-14 or a 15-17 look for Japan on the box for countries of origin. Now the better deep fakes may just copy the packaging and falsely claim the country origin too but from what I’ve seen most make several mistakes on copying the package. It is possible this is one more mistake they are prone to making that we can catch.
07navi
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They also make tiny mistakes on the items, they are kind of like fingerprints and hard to duplicate.
Always check the box. Many NGKs that were always made in Japan are now made somewhere else. Saw it on the last one I bought when the ones I was removing wee stamped Japan on the plug socket part.
I think some new ones are made in India or Mexico.
Thank you Hulkster. All of that and I came out unscathed and wasn't even mentioned. Whew!! A close one though.
Hmmm... Just did my plugs a few weeks ago. What a *****! Five out six boots were stuck to the plugs and wouldn't easily pop out. I ended up sliding a screw driver between the plug and the boot in a few spots and twisting. The first one came out in pieces. What a PITA... Replaced all six boots and lubed them up with a little dielectric grease.
I installed the SP580 from the link below. I did notice that the electrode seemed a little soft when I gapped them to .028". Could have been imagining it and it might have been nothing though. They are still performing well after 200 miles.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084RRTYR2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I installed the SP580 from the link below. I did notice that the electrode seemed a little soft when I gapped them to .028". Could have been imagining it and it might have been nothing though. They are still performing well after 200 miles.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084RRTYR2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I checked out Makuloco's video. Looks like mine were legit thankfully. You never know though. Might be a good fake... I'm not going to sweat it unless I notice an issue.
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mquick5
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Are These the new replacement of recommended plugs? I can't find the sp542, and I'm due to replace the plugs soon. NGK LTR7BHX (95605) Spark Plug
Yes. That is what I recommend. You cannot find the Ford Performance plugs anymore, and if you do, they are the new ones, and you need to stay away.
If you are tuned, gap them down a bit to .028, vs the out of the box .032.
mquick5
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Thanks for reply, I know you probably get asked the same thing a hundred times. Your wisdom and help here is truly appreciated. I swapped them out last Sat. A buddy of mine got them for me for $55.00 he works at Napa. Seamed like a deal compared to what I seen elsewhere. Most of the local auto parts, didn't even stock them.
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