5.4L Triton timing set, replace oil pump?

[sjwelds]

So if you had known before you started what you know now, would you have tackled the job at all, or would you have just run er till she blew?

 

[JExpedition07]

So if you had known before you started what you know now, would you have tackled the job at all, or would you have just run er till she blew?

Being a dude in college who’s work is slow due to covid-19 I’d say I’d do it again despite the pain. I’d rather know my truck is reliable for the long term and duration of my schooling than wonder about a big $$ engine replacement or paying a mechanic thousands to do it. Wouldn’t have been long until cams started eating into cam caps and towers methinks because that what usually goes first it seems. Of course I’m sure when I done and look back knowing more it wouldn’t be as painful if I ever had to do it again. I think it’s one of those things that you don’t know until your knee deep in the sh*t. Nothing has been overly complex, just me being naive and young and never having been inside a modern engine I quickly found my knowledge had a lot of gaps and ran into issues.

I’ve worked on my share of pushrod Chevys in the boating world alongside my dad and fellow boaters thinking I’m knowledgeable. This engine is a lot more complex under the covers and you have to be more delicate. Made me question my sanity and has put me in my place that’s for sure.

 

[JExpedition07]

It goes a lot faster second time around. Started at 8 and already gave cams out and inside the cover. Muscle memory lol.

 

[Plati]

Dude, I know you dont like me and thats fine. I admire your sense of adventure and your can do attitude & willingness to tackle jobs that might be a stretch of your abilities. It doesn't always work out well but you grow as a person with each adventure. I'm kind of the opposite ... risk averse and sometimes paralyzed with caution so as to avoid a potential problem. I miss out on a lot of good stuff. You should be proud of yourself for tackling this job. I know you are the kind of Dude who sticks with it and wrestles the beast to the ground never giving up until the job is done. Grit is what makes successful people. Think about your a/c repair job and how much you learned with that painful experience. Kudo's!

Think about how much time and money is invested in formal education and put this job in that context. You are getting a big bang for your buck with this even if it does cost you some dollars and hours and banged up knuckles. When you are old and sitting in a rocking chair you will have some stories to tell.

Not trying to blow smoke up your arse, just calling like I see it.

 

[07navi]

Dude, I know you dont like me and thats fine. I admire your sense of adventure and your can do attitude & willingness to tackle jobs that might be a stretch of your abilities. It doesn't always work out well but you grow as a person with each adventure. I'm kind of the opposite ... risk averse and sometimes paralyzed with caution so as to avoid a potential problem. I miss out on a lot of good stuff. You should be proud of yourself for tackling this job. I know you are the kind of Dude who sticks with it and wrestles the beast to the ground never giving up until the job is done. Grit is what makes successful people. Think about your a/c repair job and how much you learned with that painful experience. Kudo's!

Think about how much time and money is invested in formal education and put this job in that context. You are getting a big bang for your buck with this even if it does cost you some dollars and hours and banged up knuckles. When you are old and sitting in a rocking chair you will have some stories to tell.

Not trying to blow smoke up your arse, just calling like I see it.

I totally agree, he's saving a big repair bill and getting a life lesson at the same time. What's to lose there?

 

[JExpedition07]

All back in time again and cams are installed. Be careful this method was tedious. I turned the cam caps bolts only a tiny at a time and torqued them evenly at the end. You are fighting the valve springs with the rockers all installed so take caution not to bend the cam. I don’t recommend it but in my case it was the best option.

 

[JExpedition07]

I’m 80% back together. Startup will be tomorrow. The reason the chain went loose is I had the tensioner arms on the incorrect banks.....oops. All fixed now. They aren’t labeled but they are different, I verified with my old pics and they were backwards.

 

[JExpedition07]

Anyone have any tips here. Valve cover are on and my 8 mm socket fell down the back drivers side cylinder plug hole and is stuck on the piston. I’ve been trying to fish it out with a magnet and no dice.

 

[Plati]

Big shop vac with hose choked down to tube that will fit down into the hole?

One of these https://www.grainger.com/product/19...kwcid=AL!2966!3!264955915877!!!g!437599874762!

 

[JExpedition07]

Got it! Magnet eventually worked but shop-vac was a definite next step. Thanks! I was doing the final torque on valve covers and plugs weren’t in yet. Of course the last bolt lol. Getting plugs in and coils then calling it a day. Tomorrow will put in the shroud and connect battery to let er rip.

 

[07navi]

Got it! Magnet eventually worked but shop-vac was a definite next step. Thanks! I was doing the final torque on valve covers and plugs weren’t in yet. Of course the last bolt lol. Getting plugs in and coils then calling it a day. Tomorrow will put in the shroud and connect battery to let er rip.

As you get more experience you automatically think about things like; "my plugs are out, I better be carful" and "my pan is open in the front, I gotta' watch that", and "they said chains rarely wear out so maybe it's something else", that's why this job is so hard, it's not Ford.

 

[JExpedition07]

As you get more experience you automatically think about things like; "my plugs are out, I better be carful" and "my pan is open in the front, I gotta' watch that", and "they said chains rarely wear out so maybe it's something else", that's why this job is so hard, it's not Ford.

Oh it’s definitely partly Ford, this is still a half crap design. The above are mistakes you simply can’t make on a pushrod engine because the plugs are under the exhaust manifolds. Def a lot of mistakes on my part but they didn’t make this easy lol.

 

[JExpedition07]

Ok any ideas how to get these plastic rivits out? I think I may need to remove the washer fluid tank from the battery box in order to reinstall as I’ve been wrestling with it for a while. Drill? Don’t want to damage tank.

 

[07navi]

Oh it’s definitely partly Ford, this is still a half crap design. The above are mistakes you simply can’t make on a pushrod engine because the plugs are under the exhaust manifolds. Def a lot of mistakes on my part but they didn’t make this easy lol.

Pushrod engines are going out like hula hoops and better designs are not as simple. Millions of cars used this 5.4 to great success, yes it is you.

 

[JExpedition07]

Pushrod engines are going out like hula hoops and better designs are not as simple. Millions of cars used this 5.4 to great success, yes it is you.

Talk to Ford about their brand new 7.3L pushrod V8 then. Then watch the videos and the engineers explain it is for ease of serviceability lol.

 

[07navi]

Ok any ideas how to get these plastic rivits out? I think I may need to remove the washer fluid tank from the battery box in order to reinstall as I’ve been wrestling with it for a while. Drill? Don’t want to damage tank.


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Drill them out smallest bit that works.

 

[07navi]

Talk to Ford about their brand new 7.3L pushrod V8 then. Then when you watch the videos and the engineers explain it is for ease of serviceability I guess you’re wrong ;/.

I know nothing about that engine or why/if they went backwards. I bet it has or will have problems too.

 

[JExpedition07]

Drill them out smallest bit that works.

Sound like a plan, I think the tank will slide right back in place thru the headlight hole. Then I can add a little bolt in the rivets place.

 

[JExpedition07]

So headlight and battery box back in and engine 100% together. Tomorrow I just got the fan shroud and blade first thing in the morning and it’s a job done. Ran out of daylight here lol.

 

[07navi]

So headlight and battery box back in and engine 100% together. Tomorrow I just got the fan shroud and blade first thing in the morning and it’s a job done. Ran out of daylight here lol.

We will have a drum roll for you...…….lol