Bypass oil filter installation

[Larry McNeil]

Got a new to me 2017 King Ranch today. 45,000 miles and beautiful! I have always installed an AMSOIL brand bypass oil filter/remote full flow filter manifold on my operating machinery. Would like to do so one this one. Having trouble locating a suitable location for it. Anyone have experience with this?

while I’m at it, I would also like to install a catch can passenger side. Same question - where to put it?


Looking forward to active exchanges on this forum! Thanks for any help!

 

[07navi]

Why would you want to do that?

 

[LokiWolf]

Got a new to me 2017 King Ranch today. 45,000 miles and beautiful! I have always installed an AMSOIL brand bypass oil filter/remote full flow filter manifold on my operating machinery. Would like to do so one this one. Having trouble locating a suitable location for it. Anyone have experience with this?

while I’m at it, I would also like to install a catch can passenger side. Same question - where to put it?


Looking forward to active exchanges on this forum! Thanks for any help!

Bypass filter is probably overkill as long as you are using a good SynBlend or Synthetic oil.

Highly recommend a catch can though! JLT is the best bang for the buck out there. Check them out.


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[LokiWolf]

Why would you want to do that?

Do what, the bypass or catch can...

Bypass is to filter the oil better. Catch can is to prevent deposits on the intake valves that are more of an issue on DI motors like the 1st Gen 3.5 EcoBoost in the 15-17’s.


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[07navi]

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Do what, the bypass or catch can...

Bypass is to filter the oil better. Catch can is to prevent deposits on the intake valves that are more of an issue on DI motors like the 1st Gen 3.5 EcoBoost in the 15-17’s.


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Stock filter not good enough ?

 

[justinp16ex]

Got a new to me 2017 King Ranch today. 45,000 miles and beautiful! I have always installed an AMSOIL brand bypass oil filter/remote full flow filter manifold on my operating machinery. Would like to do so one this one. Having trouble locating a suitable location for it. Anyone have experience with this?

while I’m at it, I would also like to install a catch can passenger side. Same question - where to put it?


Looking forward to active exchanges on this forum! Thanks for any help!

I've considered the by-pass filter, not sure if anyone on here has done it. Some people have done remote filters to make access easier.

 

[Machete]

By pass oil filter is way overkill if you use quality oil and proper change intervals.

If doing for easy access, makes sense.

Catch cans... one of the many reasons I won’t buy an ecoboost motor.

 

[Machete]

By pass oil filter is way overkill if you use quality oil and proper change intervals.

If doing for easy access, makes sense.

Catch cans... one of the many reasons I won’t buy an ecoboost motor.

 

[LokiWolf]

By pass oil filter is way overkill if you use quality oil and proper change intervals.

If doing for easy access, makes sense.

Catch cans... one of the many reasons I won’t buy an ecoboost motor.

HaHaHaHaHa!!!

ANY modern DI motor has this problem! Not new. Zero reason not to buy an EcoBoost.

The 2nd Gen 3.5 has less of an issue, because it has both Port and and Direct Injection. This is what the 4th Gen has...



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[JasonH]

I've had UOAs done with Castrol Magnatec running 9k intervals. Oil came back fine. Same results on bobistheoilguy from others. I think the bypass is likely overkill.

There are videos on Youtube of the catch can install. Many are for the F150, but engine bay layout is the same to my recollection.

I suggest plugs around 60k. Mine were causing stumbling at 100k, but more importantly the boots were done and shredded when I tried to take the plugs out. Not sure at what point they were gone, but it may be cheap insurance to check them out early.

 

[Machete]

HaHaHaHaHa!!!

ANY modern DI motor has this problem! Not new. Zero reason not to buy an EcoBoost.

The 2nd Gen 3.5 has less of an issue, because it has both Port and and Direct Injection. This is what the 4th Gen has...



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Actually they don’t. Some are now using both direct and port injection. See newer DI like ecoboost.

 

[LokiWolf]

Actually they don’t. Some are now using both direct and port injection. See newer DI like ecoboost.

Did you even read my comment...?!?

The dual injection Motors still have the issue with buildup, just less, because the majority of the time they are still DI.

Heck the Hellcat has port injection, but comes with a factory oil separator(not as good as a true catch can). Most recommend a true catch can for those too!


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[Machete]

Did you even read my comment...?!?


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Yes. Did you read tour first paragraph?
Which is it?
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/05/20160503-f150.html

 

[LokiWolf]

Yes. Did you read tour first paragraph?
Which is it?
https://www.greencarcongress.com/2016/05/20160503-f150.html

I have owned 5 EcoBoosts! I am very aware of how they work and their differences.

I own a 2020, and before that a 2017, before that a 2015. My statement was 100% correct. Any DI(Only) motor has buildup issues. The dual injection just helps...but does not eliminate the issue.

If you have a Motor that has DI, you should run a catch can if you are looking for longevity. Heck, Mustang guys have been adding them for decades...with Port Injection.

 

[Langer]

It’s amazing the anyone challenges @LokiWolf

 

[07navi]

A remote filter sounds like overkill for any reason. They stock filter works fine and changing that filter is a little tricky but not a big deal.

Yes all DI motors have an intake valve build up problem but they are working feverishly to correct it because DI is so great. My 850cc snowmobile has it and puts out over 3 hp per cubic inch and purrs like a kitten.

 

[no MORE_MPG]

Hello,
I guess that I am feeling impulsive this morning. I usually let these things go.

Welcome Larry! Congrats on the new, to you, Expedition! I recently got mine and am still sorting it out. Sorry that I can't help answer your question, I've got the 5.4 and I don't plan to use it enough to wear it out.

Everyone uses their vehicles differently. If you plan on putting 500,000 miles on your vehicles and a bypass filter helps you get there (or just sleep better), go for it. My first forum experiences were at the TDIClub. Lots of people put bypass filters on their little diesels. Did they need to, of course not! But, they loved them and loved to experiment with them (N2O on a Diesel Beetle!?!).

All,
I would find this forum more pleasant and more useful if there were more comments like LokiWolf's, (paraphrasing here) "...can't help with the bypass filter, but the catch can is a great idea and JLT is a good brand...". He shared his opinions and then added to the conversation. (I'll add this link so that I am adding something tangible to the conversation as well - https://www.amazon.com/2011-2017-3-5EB-JLT-Passenger-Separator/dp/B06WGTBSBG.)

 

[07navi]

It’s amazing the anyone challenges @LokiWolf

Why? I have many times.

 

[LokiWolf]

Why? I have many times.

And lost...


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[07navi]

And lost...


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