GAINMOB
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what about the dude in tampa that says $6500+10 days and you'll have 500 hp to the wheels???
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Knautical2001
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I thought he said he paid $8000, and I don't feel like paying that kind of money. LOL
GAINMOB
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the guy doing the work said 10 days...$6500
I would be cautious of that amount of hp on a stock block. Thats around 600hp at the crank. Hyper pistons would hold up if tune is dead on but they are not very forgiving. The stock rods are likely to exit block anytime at that power level. I would recommend forged rods and pistons at a minimum. Tranny will also be on borrowed time at 500rwhp not to mention torque converter.
Can 500 rwhp be made for $6,500.00? Yes I believe so but how long it would hold up should be the next question.. I would ask many questions.. and what that $6,500 includes.
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I just checked the post I believe you were refering to Freeway and he said 500hp and I do not believe he mentioned at the wheels. I find it much more likely to get 500hp at the flywheel for that price and it would be relatively safe for the stock block assuming the tune is dead on.
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inquired with jdm again about putting something into my 2011 ford expedition, i'm not sure if 2011 has different programming vs 2010, but they dont know for sure if they can do anything for me. i am dying to add a supercharger to my expedition.
You are absolutely correct Tom. These things are deceivingly fast! If I don't watch it, I'll hit almost 100 mph getting on the interstate. These things are so big and so smooth, you just don't feel it. In fact, my wife (Cass) got pulled over the other night in it. She was doing 62 in a 40. Said she pulled out of the gas station and started accelerating normally. Next thing she sees is blue flashers in her rearview. Thankfully she just got warning.
Bojo
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rayt, the Edelbrock supercharger will work on your Expedition. Why not just go with it?
waiting on jdm to confirm
i do see there is a seller on ebay listing it as 07-12 compatible which is good news
but i wanted jdm to confirm before i do anything.
GAINMOB
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im sure there more work going on than just programming and that it will last...10days is enough time to tear apart/add parts/put together/tune..10 days...a lot is done in 10 days when thats all youre doing...i'll let you know in a few yrs
There is a lot to it period. Said nothing about just programming. Everything from the heads up has to be removed and replaced with blower kit. There is also fuel system upgrades, pulleys to install, heat exchanger, reprogram ecu, etc...
It really does not matter because after reading his post im sure he was talking 500 crank hp and that is safe if correctly tuned. (I assume that it will be)
This is the quote by 06WhippleExpo I found:
"Im guna be doing a whipple 3v build on a guys expo from tampa fl he looking at about $6500 and about 500hp when done that includes everything he drops off truck picks up a 500hp whipple truck "
It can be found here - http://expeditionforum.com/showthread.php?t=15453 post #7
I thought we were talking 500 rear wheel hp based on your post and that just raised a flag for me. It would typically cost a lot more and take more time to remove motor and rebuild with forged components. You can make 500 rear wheel hp with stock powdered metal rods but its not a question of if the motor will fail but when. That was my concern..
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Bojo
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The cheapest I found the Edelbrock kit was through Summit. It was around $6500. If you have a 4wd, you need an oil filter relocation kit too, $400. I had it installed at my friends Ford dealership, it ended up costing $1000 for the install.
thanks, guess that is the friend price, one of the more known installers in the northeast quoted me at 2500 for install/tune, said it was 16hrs or so, but would need my vehicle for a week. 6600 for the edelbrock + oil filter relocation.
guess i should shop around for installers.
Bojo
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You don't need a tune. The kit comes with it, an SCT tuner with SCT tunes installed. It should be install only for them, and 12 hours give or take. Should be around $1,000 depending on his shop rate.
BTW, post some pics. I am thinking about going with Harley wheels to. I'm curious how it looks.
BTW, post some pics. I am thinking about going with Harley wheels to. I'm curious how it looks.
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Good luck to you! Would love to increase the membership of the ever growing blown expy club!
There are a lot of big name tuners/installers in the New Jersey area.
http://www.teamjdm.com/
http://www.jlpracing.com/
http://www.bigdaddyperformance.com/
Have no idea on their cost or availability though.
GAINMOB
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last thing im doing...blowing it...it'll be a few years if we're still here...per the mayan calendar
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12/21/2013 Tuck your head between your legs and kiss your arse goodbye.
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I had an interesting weekend. I went to the SCT website and there was a firmware and software update available for the tuner that came with the supercharger. They instruct you to put the stock tune back in before doing the update. I did that. During the update some error occured and the tuner locked up. This was Friday night. No customer service was available, so I was down all weekend. I called SCT Monday morning and they remoted into my computer and had me going in about 15 minutes. Great customer service (other than having no weekend support).
Next I called Edelbrock to see if there was something that could be done through them to improve the shifting. They said they didn't mess with the trans tune and had to do it that way to get the CARB rating. Makes sense I guess, but was expecting to be able to use the SCT tool similar to how aftermarket tuners do it. Essentially, Edelbrock provides the engine tune, and to go further you need to find an aftermarket tuner. Maybe this should have been obvious, but it wasn't for me.
I've contacted VMP Tuning. I plan on doing a datalog, and then working with them to get a custom tune so I can modify settings. Luckily, the tunes are pretty cheap when you already have the SCT SF3.
Next I called Edelbrock to see if there was something that could be done through them to improve the shifting. They said they didn't mess with the trans tune and had to do it that way to get the CARB rating. Makes sense I guess, but was expecting to be able to use the SCT tool similar to how aftermarket tuners do it. Essentially, Edelbrock provides the engine tune, and to go further you need to find an aftermarket tuner. Maybe this should have been obvious, but it wasn't for me.
I've contacted VMP Tuning. I plan on doing a datalog, and then working with them to get a custom tune so I can modify settings. Luckily, the tunes are pretty cheap when you already have the SCT SF3.
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06WhippleExpo
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Did they say what caused the software to freeze? Iv had some problems tuning 2010 and up trucks with the same problem freezing while loading software never called sct reset computer and laptop had to reload factory tune then burn back on top of it but never got a reason as too why this is happening never had a problem with 2010 and under was there a change on 2010 and up that im unaware of ?
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