headers

[99exbyut]

does anyone know if these would fit my expy. i know they say f150 but they look really close



http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-...r_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2c5bb9a1f4

 

[toms89]

You might try contacting obx and ask them. If they do fit let me know... been looking for longtubes that will fit.

Heres a response I got from another manufacture that I asked the same question.

Hello,
We only have longtubes for the F-150. You could use them but will run into fitment issues underneath at the cross member / frame..... We currently have no plans to make any for this application. Thank you

Tim Lawler
Pacesetter
Sales/Service/Tech
602-266-1964

 

[toms89]

There must be something about the 1st gen expys that cause fitment issues because I have checked all manufactures I can think of and none make longtubes for the expy. Most make them for the F150 though. Thats a lot of money and effort to go thru to find out they dont fit so I have not tried any of the F150's version. Looking under my expy...... seems like plenty of room other than the starter to body clearance. Maybe there is more room here on the F150's ??

 

[SOLISIMO]

Well if theres no demand for them its not beneficial for them to make them. Remember the market for f150s is ten fold ours

 

[Racenut]

All I can say is if you get them and they do fit PLEASE do a write up and let us all know!

I would love to put long tubes on mine when I get the money, and BTW that is a really good price.

I may just have to break down one of these days and pick up a cheap set of Flowtech headers for the F150 to see if they fit, and if not I have a BFH and a good welder and torch set .

 

[panda24619]

haha a BFH! in autoshop we just called it MO for i need MO POWA!! haha then there was MO SENOR! daddy of MO! now that was BFH! and dont say what a BFH is. lets other people think about it. haha but i think i saw someone around my area have long tubes. i could see them cause he didnt have his inner fenders on. the only thing i can see that gets in the way is the transfer case cross member. but i dont think there is any difference from the expo to the f150 underneath. need to look under one now. but even then you can fab up some sort of mount or just bend the tube.

 

[Racenut]

haha a BFH! in autoshop we just called it MO for i need MO POWA!! haha then there was MO SENOR! daddy of MO! now that was BFH! and dont say what a BFH is. lets other people think about it. haha but i think i saw someone around my area have long tubes. i could see them cause he didnt have his inner fenders on. the only thing i can see that gets in the way is the transfer case cross member. but i dont think there is any difference from the expo to the f150 underneath. need to look under one now. but even then you can fab up some sort of mount or just bend the tube.

That's what I was thinking is there is not much difference between the 2. Not only that since mine is only a 2wd I don't have any additional cross members to deal with. There is a lot of room under there and as stated before I think the only " clearance " issue would be around the starter, But then again that is where the torch set and the BFH comes into play !

 

[panda24619]

but arnt the starters in the same location as the f150? cause the 2wd expos should have noooo problem with cross members. all you have is the tranny crossmember that the f150s have. and the f150-expo engine-transfercase shouldnt be any different. this makes no sense.

 

[Racenut]

but arnt the starters in the same location as the f150? cause the 2wd expos should have noooo problem with cross members. all you have is the tranny crossmember that the f150s have. and the f150-expo engine-transfercase shouldnt be any different. this makes no sense.

Yeah the starters are in the same place. I seem to remember hearing something about the firewall being a little different, but I am not sure.

Tommorow I am going over to my buddies place and he has a 2000 f150 5.4L, I will try to compare the under side and see if they are the same. His is a 4wd but if the firewall and everything is the same as mine then the headers should work right? I know that with his he would end up with clearance issues due to the cross members, but since I don't have those as long as the frame is the same as the Expy ( or really close to it ) then I don't see why those headers wouldnt work.

 

[panda24619]

the f150s and expos are the same from the dash forward! doors are different. and engine trans and t case are the same. so idk why there would be issues. if theres issues for the expos wouldnt there be issues with the 150s? you shouldnt have to your a BFH on something that is semi universal.

 

[walnuts4x4]

well supercrew F150 front doors are the same as expos....

 

[toms89]

the f150s and expos are the same from the dash forward! doors are different. and engine trans and t case are the same. so idk why there would be issues. if theres issues for the expos wouldnt there be issues with the 150s? you shouldnt have to your a BFH on something that is semi universal.

My only concern is with over 1.5 million expys sold you would think the header companies would include the expys in the list if they did indeed fit. They all seem to have shorties for the expys but no long tubes. They went through the trouble to make/test shortys on the expys...... but no long tubes? Yet they have both for the F150.

I hope they do fit.. but don't want to be the first to test em.

I will be interested to hear racenuts observations on the difference if any between f150's and expys as far as header clearance goes. He should take measurements between various points to verify. Starter to firewall, block to firewall, etc...


We need to get this figured out lol ...because I plan on doing some major upgrades on the motor by the end of this coming summer. I would much prefer longtubes over shorties if I have that option.

Any volunteers to be the first guinea pig??

 

[toms89]

We should raise money for a good cause. Expy longtube header test fund!

Send donations to toms89........

 

[panda24619]

i would do it just to see. i know some good guys that would do it for me. not for free, but cheaper. but i live in cali. i get caught with those i better give the guy a $50 to shut up.

 

[walnuts4x4]

We should raise money for a good cause. Expy longtube header test fund!

Send donations to toms89........

 

[SOLISIMO]

My only concern is with over 1.5 million expys sold you would think the header companies would include the expys in the list if they did indeed fit. They all seem to have shorties for the expys but no long tubes. They went through the trouble to make/test shortys on the expys...... but no long tubes? Yet they have both for the F150.

I hope they do fit.. but don't want to be the first to test em.

I will be interested to hear racenuts observations on the difference if any between f150's and expys as far as header clearance goes. He should take measurements between various points to verify. Starter to firewall, block to firewall, etc...


We need to get this figured out lol ...because I plan on doing some major upgrades on the motor by the end of this coming summer. I would much prefer longtubes over shorties if I have that option.

Any volunteers to be the first guinea pig??

Thats bc the shorty header is a remanufactured factory header, yet people still buy themtheir is no research and developement into them. They take the factory one off, cast it, and copy it. Then sell it as a performance header. They did this with the G37 and people caught on real quick.

 

[99exbyut]

i know i will try them after i get back from my deplyment if no one has tryed it yet. cause i know if im going to put headers im not going to buy shortys. just going to put on bolt on stuff and the gotts mod intake.

 

[panda24619]

i should have just got shortys. would have been the same price as my manifolds after everything was done to get new manifolds. o well. it would have been cool just to say i got headers, even if they were shortys and did nothing. haha

 

[toms89]

Thats bc the shorty header is a remanufactured factory header, yet people still buy themtheir is no research and developement into them. They take the factory one off, cast it, and copy it. Then sell it as a performance header. They did this with the G37 and people caught on real quick.

Remanufactured shortys off of what? The stock exhaust manifold is a completely different design plus all the shorties are different depending on which manufacture. Out of all the ones I have seen I prefer the eldebrock shorties as these appear to have the smoothest transition but also expensive.

http://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/65632/10002/-1?parentProductId=750190

 

[toms89]

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