I really like Expedition, but the terrible suspension is getting to me...

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Deadman

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im not interested in jeopardizing my warranty w/ 3rd party tunes

Then just leave it I guess. You can't have both, there's no better option at this point.....

My 4wd actuator will be worn out after shutting the stupid thing off EVERY time I click sport mode so it doesn't handle like granny's old Caprice Classic! lol
 

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Then just leave it I guess. You can't have both, there's no better option at this point.....

My 4wd actuator will be worn out after shutting the stupid thing off EVERY time I click sport mode so it doesn't handle like granny's old Caprice Classic! lol

yeah its tolerable for now - this thing (can) ride like a wet noodle (especially considering im coming from a '17 f350 crew cab long bed 4x4).

I wear the drive mode knob out switching to eco mode as it is.
 
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I have an 18 Limited. Came from a 15 F150. I went with the Secoy because of the tight suspension. I don’t feel everything you all are feeling. I did level it out and put bigger tires on. I test drove a Yukon and didn’t go that direction because it floated everywhere. My Expy is much tighter. Have a Infiniti QX80 also and the Expy drives and rides better. I did have to replace a couple struts that had blown and were backordered for a month. There is obviously and issue there. May want to have yours checked.
 

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The big SUVs are the lazy boy chairs of the highway. They for sure do not ride like the pickups. Unless you go heavier springs.
 

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Can someone please tell me what the differences in the height between the front and the rear everything measures up the same but when you park it on level ground you could tell she's off she's a little bit lower in the front
 

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Can someone please tell me what the differences in the height between the front and the rear everything measures up the same but when you park it on level ground you could tell she's off she's a little bit lower in the front

if its like everything else its less than 2 inches...probably closer to 1 or 1.5 inches in difference - this is by design - so that when we load the back down w/ our wives cosmetics and enough clothes for an arm (just for the weekend) the entire vehicle will sit level.

If you level (front boost or lift) and then LOAD gear in the rear the geometry will be off and you'll end up w/ understeer!
 

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yeah its tolerable for now - this thing (can) ride like a wet noodle (especially considering im coming from a '17 f350 crew cab long bed 4x4).

I wear the drive mode knob out switching to eco mode as it is.

Eco rides the worst in my opinion, its softest.
 

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I have an 18 Limited. Came from a 15 F150. I went with the Secoy because of the tight suspension. I don’t feel everything you all are feeling. I did level it out and put bigger tires on. I test drove a Yukon and didn’t go that direction because it floated everywhere. My Expy is much tighter. Have a Infiniti QX80 also and the Expy drives and rides better. I did have to replace a couple struts that had blown and were backordered for a month. There is obviously and issue there. May want to have yours checked.

Our higher end models have the CCD suspensions on them. If yours had the leaking struts, then it has the lower end suspension parts on it. The CCD units are showing more signs of softness than the low end models currently.
 

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Something that doesnt seem as tlked about is ride degradation. Either due to tires, shocks or spring damage, body damage, etc. The expy, like most cars, suffers from ride degradation, but some are doing it faster than others, and the ccd opt also seems to be susceptible to it far more commonly than usual. Mines experienced it a little of 5k miles, where everything settled, then again after 15kish until i turned it in where it shook over bumps more often, the hits from sharp impacts were more pronounced and had a harsher step more occasionally. Still smooth, but right before turn in, i was told my shocks were leaking too.
 

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It is w/out a doubt the softest right - and it sucks in the turns and interstate overpass ramps....but I prefer eco for the shift strategy

Do you like the early Low rpm shifts? It gets kinda sluggish in eco for me, but man Sport setting is just obnoxious on the backroads as it screams the rpms in every gear.
 

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I feel the same way. I have the regular suspension and 20" wheels and while the front seat ride is tolerable, the ride in the rear seat is absolutely awful.

I like the looks of the 20s, but I want to go down to 17s with giant sidewalls so that I am actually comfortable. I was going to buy some takeoffs from an F150, but apparently the 17" F150 wheels don't fit properly.

If anyone can recommend a 17" wheel with no trimming/modding required, please let me know!!
 

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Do you like the early Low rpm shifts? It gets kinda sluggish in eco for me, but man Sport setting is just obnoxious on the backroads as it screams the rpms in every gear.

I like that it gets into 10th gear asap - Im an aggressive driver (there I admit it)....and im seeing 15-17mpg in mixed driving....I expect I could see 19-20 on the interstate.

the downshifts in eco mode are reasonable - I prefer it to hold 10th (especially on the interstate). I like the firmer ride in sport mode but its tough to get past 6 gear below 55 or even 60.

On a long (interstate/multi-state) drive - I may put it in sport mode, select 2wd, and MANUALLY shift it to keep it in 10th as long as possible.
 

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I feel the same way. I have the regular suspension and 20" wheels and while the front seat ride is tolerable, the ride in the rear seat is absolutely awful.

I like the looks of the 20s, but I want to go down to 17s with giant sidewalls so that I am actually comfortable. I was going to buy some takeoffs from an F150, but apparently the 17" F150 wheels don't fit properly.

If anyone can recommend a 17" wheel with no trimming/modding required, please let me know!!


What about the rear seat ride is so unbearable? Ive been in the sec row, its nice enough. Never the 3rd row though.
 

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I don't find the ride to be too soft in my '18 Limited. I was coming from a 2005 Tahoe z71 with bilstein 5100s. The Tahoe was softer, but with the Bilsteins the rebound was amazing (again for a truck). Maybe a bit more rebound would work well in the Expy, but it pretty much does in most factory cars, other than performance based.
 

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I bought my Expedition to have a comfortable, quiet, luxurious people and equipment mover. I love the ride and the handling is what I expected. I drove the truck before I bought it, of course, and there were no surprises after the purchase. If I had wanted a sports vehicle or a true off road vehicle, I would have bought something else.
 

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I like that it gets into 10th gear asap - Im an aggressive driver (there I admit it)....and im seeing 15-17mpg in mixed driving....I expect I could see 19-20 on the interstate.

the downshifts in eco mode are reasonable - I prefer it to hold 10th (especially on the interstate). I like the firmer ride in sport mode but its tough to get past 6 gear below 55 or even 60.

On a long (interstate/multi-state) drive - I may put it in sport mode, select 2wd, and MANUALLY shift it to keep it in 10th as long as possible.

Mine made over 24 mpg on the highway on my last cross country drive. I've got 3.73 gears too.

In sport, I agree its retarded how it holds the gears. 55 mph and its down 2-4 gears from 10th.
 
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