Rear seat entertainment ok or a bust?

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Throw a capacitor on the positive lead between the battery and monitor... It's basically a quick charge/discharge battery to cover the gaps. They are popular on big number car stereos.

My understanding is that’s what they did. It’s not one of the big capacitors that looks like a coke can, but they did run a capacitor in line from the battery to the TVs. The shop is not new at this, they’re one of the best rated shops in the Dallas-Ft Worth metroplex and I work with several guys that have had work done there. So there is something abnormal or head-scratching going on here, otherwise they would have figured it out. Plus, they’re not charging me for all the extra labor so it’s money out of their pocket to be stumped. By which I mean: it’s in their interest to get this figured out, ha!

My assumption is that one of the big capacitors is what’s needed, but honestly, at this point, a small, unobtrusive dongle for the OBD port that disables the ASS is preferable to another 3 hours waiting for my car.
 
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Finally back ... sorry! We are enjoying these monitors in our Navigator. I won't waste time going over what has already been discussed.

I can say a few things I'm not fond of ...

1) Note that these have DVD players, not Blu Ray players. So if you have Blu Rays you won't be able to play them.

2) On the Navigator they protrude out from the seat quite a bit (just like the OEM ones). It's not bad, but just wanted to note it. They also maybe sit a little bit lower than I'd like for kids in convertible seats. Of course this depends on the height of the seats in the front row at any given time.

Whomever wired ours in connected them so that anytime the auto start/stop engages the power is cut to the monitors. I will have this fixed next time I go in, but for now I have to make sure and disable stop/start if we're going to be watching them.

The ability to download all the apps is great. I watched a bunch of Big Ten basketball on the way home on a road trip one time this spring. And like mentioned, the app that mirrors the rear screens on your phone is a great option for those with little ones. If our kids were older we'd probably just have bought a couple of iPads, so if you can deal with the price this is a nice option over factory.

Good info. Any pics? Would love to see how far out they sit?


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Those integrate very nicely. Much cleaner looking than in the Expy.


We drove from Dallas to Estes Park, CO this past week and LOVED these things. Gave the boys headphones and set my 6yo loose to control Disney+ for he and his 3yo brother. The only time we heard from them was pee breaks. A couple times they wanted to watch a disk instead and we were able to run it all from my wife’s phone in the front passenger seat. We also did the FM modulator a few times so we could all listen (who doesn’t love to listen to Finding Dory!?) and it worked like a champ.

This is the best $1600 I’ve spent in a long time.

(We did give up trying to make it play nice with the ASS. I bought an Auto Stop Eliminator and haven’t looked back. I’ll miss the $3 I’ll save in gas every year, and the warm fuzzy feeling of helping to save the planet, but thems the breaks.)
 

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How does the factory do it? I can’t imagine those cut off with ass. Somebody posted a diagram showing a module that runs off a white wire with blue tracer.
 

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How does the factory do it? I can’t imagine those cut off with ass. Somebody posted a diagram showing a module that runs off a white wire with blue tracer.

I would love to know. They tried everything they could think of at the install shop. My guess is that the factory system is less sensitive to the voltage drop.
 

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In process of installing, using the factory hardware

These are the 12.5 inch off ebay android 9.0. For 500.00 they are very sweet.

I feel like lincoln screwed us on the RES. The factory system is freeken garbage. I posted how much a ************* they are showing pictures on blueoval forum. And the section is gone. I think there tring to hide the fact how shity the factory RES is for $2500.00

My butt hurts

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In process of installing, using the factory hardware

These are the 12.5 inch off ebay android 9.0. For 500.00 they are very sweet.

I feel like lincoln screwed us on the RES. The factory system is freeken garbage. I posted how much a ************* they are showing pictures on blueoval forum. And the section is gone. I think there tring to hide the fact how shity the factory RES is for $2500.00

My butt hurts

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Well, they are a little sensitive over there on the blue oval forums.
 

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I just opened up the passenger side monitor, is even shittier than the driver side monitor. There is not even a processor. Worth about 30.00 dollars
Compete piece of crap.

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I mean...
That does make sense. It's basically just a tv with selectable inputs. All the video generation happens on the driver's side.
 

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I mean...
That does make sense. It's basically just a tv with selectable inputs. All the video generation happens on the driver's side.


Agreed vox and Fomco are banking on this crap for $2500.00 giving a shined turd.

I can buy 5 sets (10 monitors) on ebay that will out perform the factory RES for the cost of 2 factory monitors.
 

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As aggravating as it is the auto industry has been struggling to keep up with tech for ages. It just changes at an exponentially faster rate. Ford probably made the decision to use those monitors in late 2016. They also have to pass crash testing, heat etc. Take one look at caddys CTS main screens that pop any given moment due to heat. I know I'm making excuses but that is the current reality. Now a lot of manufacturers are offering mounts for devices you already own because they have given up.

I'm honestly not mad at the tech side of things with the rear ent. I just can't fathom why they didn't integrate it in any way shape or form to the front? No audio over the speakers? I can't stop the video from the front?? It might as well be an iPad back there. Having the (now) factory supplied Roku fixes all the processing issues you are having. I can cast from any device, so technically I can control it with my Android phone or my wife from her iPhone up front no problem... Really the only issue is you get one stream. The other input has to be the SD card or usb if you want to watch different sources. Not a biggie for me as we are about to have our first kid but I could see that as an issue for some. I have yet to see how a single 4g connection handles 2 had streams... I imagine not well unless there is a SOLID connection.

If that grinds your gears I don't think you should take apart the main infotainment. Considering mine can't even handle it's own startup sequence without stuttering its way to an arguably very dated looking menu system I bet it's just as depressing hardware wise...
 
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As aggravating as it is the auto industry has been struggling to keep up with tech for ages. It just changes at an exponentially faster rate. Ford probably made the decision to use those monitors in late 2016. They also have to pass crash testing, heat etc. Take one look at caddys CTS main screens that pop any given moment due to heat. I know I'm making excuses but that is the current reality. Now a lot of manufacturers are offering mounts for devices you already own because they have given up.

I'm honestly not mad at the tech side of things with the rear ent. I just can't fathom why they didn't integrate it in any way shape or form to the front? No audio over the speakers? I can't stop the video from the front?? It might as well be an iPad back there. Having the (now) factory supplied Roku fixes all the processing issues you are having. I can cast from any device, so technically I can control it with my Android phone or my wife from her iPhone up front no problem... Really the only issue is you get one stream. The other input has to be the SD card or usb if you want to watch different sources. Not a biggie for me as we are about to have our first kid but I could see that as an issue for some. I have yet to see how a single 4g connection handles 2 had streams... I imagine not well unless there is a SOLID connection.

If that grinds your gears I don't think you should take apart the main infotainment. Considering mine can't even handle it's own startup sequence without stuttering its way to an arguably very dated looking menu system I bet it's just as depressing hardware wise...

It scares me that 4 years in they haven’t addressed any of the issues/limitations they had out of the gate (RSE and otherwise). Really really hoping Ford is spending time, effort and resources on the next gen...
 

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It scares me that 4 years in they haven’t addressed any of the issues/limitations they had out of the gate (RSE and otherwise). Really really hoping Ford is spending time, effort and resources on the next gen...

They addressed it for Navis in 2020 by including the Roku. I can see how dated and useless it would be without it...

I'm eager to hear how the in car wifi handles the two independent tablets. Love how you integrated them into the factory mounts! @Vipersinu2
 
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They addressed it for Navis in 2020 by including the Roku. I can see how dated and useless it would be without it...

I'm eager to hear how the in car wifi handles the two independent tablets. Love how you integrated them into the factory mounts! @Vipersinu2

Adding a dongle isn’t solving the issue. It’s, at best, a half assed bandaid.
 

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I am not finished installing, I am waiting for the the mini Tamiya power connectors to come. I didnt want to cut the factory power cord. So they are runing off the cigarette lighter plug.

The wifi works perfectly. 200.00 per year with att service.
Additionally I can remote start truck with lincoln way app and unlock or lock the doors.

 

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Adding a dongle isn’t solving the issue. It’s, at best, a half assed bandaid.

I'll give you that it's a band-aid,
But the functionality it adds is far from half-assed... How many other vehicles can stream video to the back seats much less have it trigger by voice? Ok Google, play the Sopranos in the back seat" It can be controlled by rf remote or any cell phone. I have live TV, local channels and access to my entire "DVR" via YouTube TV. Disney+, Hulu, Netflix, HBO, etc etc etc... It's all there... If friends come along all they have to do is login to the wifi and they can play their fav YouTube vids, even create a que that the whole group can add to.
 
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