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How is it working out for you? Solid? The price is right for sure. I did the same thing on my 05 F350 diesel. 8' Fisher plow for 100k miles of Mass winters and never missed a beat.
 

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A lot of people install ReadyLIFT which I think is quite overpriced. I installed the one from ebay
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Steel-Front-2-5-Lift-Kit-Ford-Expedition-2WD-4WD-FX4-2003-2014/272036627414 and it looks pretty solid for significantly less money. Besides you can choose your height by picking various options. In my case it was 2/2.5. Another purchase was https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Pair-L...r-1-00-Caster-1-50-Free-Shipping/263431907192. It is twice cheaper than Moog.
Good luck down the road when that eBay spacer snaps apart. Readylift way to go. Got that and my 35/11.50/20s on my 2016 Platinum el and plan on throwing either 1.25” or 1.5” wheel adapters on here soon. When messing with suspension components, I chose quality over price. I mean what’s $300 for parts when you paid all that $$ for the truck in the first place?
 
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I have no problem except some grinding noise during hard turns which developed after 1k miles. Maybe it's not related to the lift.
 

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I have no problem except some grinding noise during hard turns which developed after 1k miles. Maybe it's not related to the lift.

Get under there and check that everything is torqued up correctly.

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Good luck down the road when that eBay spacer snaps apart. Readylift way to go. Got that and my 35/11.50/20s on my 2016 Platinum el and plan on throwing either 1.25” or 1.5” wheel adapters on here soon. When messing with suspension components, I chose quality over price. I mean what’s $300 for parts when you paid all that $$ for the truck in the first place?
I love you guys... "Good luck down the road...spacer snaps apart." Doom and gloom lol Like I mentioned above. Inexpensive spacers sat under my 05 F350 6.0 diesel for 100k miles of plowing in Mass over six years. I think if it would have broken, I'd have been the one to break it. More expensive doesn't mean better or that there is anything wrong with the less expensive one. I tend to choose common sense over throwing money at something.
 

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I have no problem except some grinding noise during hard turns which developed after 1k miles. Maybe it's not related to the lift.
Not much that the spacers could do to cause a grinding noise. They're pretty basic if you've ever installed them yourself.
 
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I put 5K on this setup in two weeks. Apparently the spacers are not critical at all. If someone wants to spend $300 for a piece of mild steel then it's good for ReadyLIFT. The only critical item here, I believe, is a ball joint on the upper arm. So changing that arm is more important. And probably for heavy off road use only. For city driving not so much.
 

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Not much that the spacers could do to cause a grinding noise. They're pretty basic if you've ever installed them yourself.

Incorrect reassembly or a destroyed balljoint
 

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Incorrect reassembly or a destroyed balljoint
Yes, and you can get out and stick a knife in your tire too. The leveling/lift kits we're talking about here won't do any damage. It wouldn't harm a ball joint unless there is something else wrong.
 

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Sure they could

Lifts put strain on the UCAs. And not torquing down a DIY job correctly can mess anything and everything up, and just plain kill you, too
 
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I did not touch UCAs or hubs. Only sway bar, shocks and lower arm bolts (replaced) which were torqued at alignment shop.
 

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Yes, and you can get out and stick a knife in your tire too. The leveling/lift kits we're talking about here won't do any damage. It wouldn't harm a ball joint unless there is something else wrong.
Completely wrong, the spacers stress the crap out of the UCAs and ball joints bc it changes the geometry angles of the suspension whereas a real lift kit moves the suspension components up to keep an OEM like angle for all parts. They most certainly will, over time, and more quickly wear out the ball joints and other components. Put the spacers in wrong, improperly torquing, bad ball joints, UCA rubbing spring at full extension can all cause noises. Do some research bud
 

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Completely wrong, the spacers stress the crap out of the UCAs and ball joints bc it changes the geometry angles of the suspension whereas a real lift kit moves the suspension components up to keep an OEM like angle for all parts. They most certainly will, over time, and more quickly wear out the ball joints and other components. Put the spacers in wrong, improperly torquing, bad ball joints, UCA rubbing spring at full extension can all cause noises. Do some research bud
HA! I love you guys. You need to do your own research "bud." The amount of geometry change that these tiny little spacers create won't make a bit of difference. You must not bounce down the road at all up there in Mass. Sorry, but I spent 41 years in Mass unfortunately. I know better.
As I've said many times before. I put the 2 1/2" spacers/leveling kit in the front of my 05 F350 diesel. I drove it for 100k miles, with an 8' Fisher plow hanging off the front of it every winter. The UCAs and LCAs were just fine when I got rid of it. Your argument is invalid. I'm not just a keyboard mechanic.

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HA! I love you guys. You need to do your own research "bud." The amount of geometry change that these tiny little spacers create won't make a bit of difference. You must not bounce down the road at all up there in Mass. Sorry, but I spent 41 years in Mass unfortunately. I know better.
As I've said many times before. I put the 2 1/2" spacers/leveling kit in the front of my 05 F350 diesel. I drove it for 100k miles, with an 8' Fisher plow hanging off the front of it every winter. The UCAs and LCAs were just fine when I got rid of it. Your argument is invalid. I'm not just a keyboard mechanic.

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Dude, You cannot compare a solid axle front end to an independent front end.

While I think the fact that @patsfan4life takes leaves a little to be disused he is dead on correct.

Wish I could whiteboard on a forum. Spacers on a solid axle move the whole assembly down, and everything suspension wise stays pretty close. Angles for the actual suspension components mostly stay the same.

On an independent front end it increases the angle that the A-Arms are at by default under normal ride and static circumstances. That increases load and changes the direction forces on all of the components.

Price matters. Under my 60K SUV I want a company I know I can call, they have an address.
 

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You cannot compare a solid axle front end to an independent front end.
True enough; however, I still stand by what I said about the geometry not being changed enough to make a bit of difference to the ball joints.
 

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True enough, however; I still stand by what I said about the geometry not being changed enough to make a bit of difference to the ball joints.

And sorry, but you would be wrong. Go read any forum with lifted IFS vehicles, and there is a MUCH higher rate of suspension component failure, mostly ball joints, and end links.


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And sorry, but you would be wrong. Go read any forum with lifted IFS vehicles, and there is a MUCH higher rate of suspension component failure, mostly ball joints, and end links.


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Yes, LIFTED ifs trucks. Not 2" leveling kits.
 

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Yes, LIFTED ifs trucks. Not 2" leveling kits.

Yep, and again wrong. I have a really good friend that used to own an off-road shop. He mentioned it for every “leveling kit”, or “spacer kit” he installed on IFS trucks before he sold it. IT DEFINITELY puts additional strain. Sorry, but this is just physics and basic suspension geometry.

Regardless of the additional wear discussion, glad ya’ll are happy with the E-Bay kits.


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Yep, and again wrong. I have a really good friend that used to own an off-road shop. He mentioned it for every “leveling kit”, or “spacer kit” he installed on IFS trucks before he sold it. IT DEFINITELY puts additional strain. Sorry, but this is just physics and basic suspension geometry.

Regardless of the additional wear discussion, glad ya’ll are happy with the E-Bay kits.


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Sorry you had that "friend". My experiences are in the real world under conditions where I was the actual one that saw, touched and felt. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. I'll take my own experiences over your friends opinion. Thanks for playing though...
 
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