07navi
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Right, they don't know what else to do, but there is nothing else.
What do you pay for an oil change?
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Aspen03
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Normally 1 of them carries but he was working and due to how he had to be positioned for the work he was doing he didnt have it on him. In this instance I'm not sure it would have mattered much due to circumstances, he was distracted (on the phone and prepping a job) and surprised by the entire thing. Likely would have become more of a liability trying to get wits together and come onto target on top of the stress of it all going down.
The police had nothing to do with the situation other than investigating. It was start to finish in about a minute. That being said defunding is pretty silly. Maybe scaling back on the mraps and the like, outside of a few instances in the country they are a complete waste of $ for a dept to upkeep and resources could be better utilized.
There are FAR too many weapons in circulation for a ban. You'd never find them all. Trying to enforce that would create more drama and certainly many, many, many deaths. I'm guessing more than all the wars/conflicts/attacks than in the past 50 years. Not a single owner I know would hand them over without a fight, likely to the death.
Just because there is "nothing else" doesnt mean it's the right option. The police could say the same thing, what else are they to do when people don't accept instructions. I've had to deal with police a handful of times in my life. I did as I was instructed, never been harmed. Ran my mouth once, got a ticket I probably wouldn't have otherwise. Now I havent been in a situation where I was being handled by any means, no one can speculate how you'll react until you are. I know if i was trying to subdue someone in a struggle I'd likely use any means necessary and would expect the same in return though we civilians arent governed by the same standard which itself has it's own pros and cons. If I was in a protest that warranted police presence I'd probably expect nonlethal tactics being used as a high probability and come with the territory of being present, cost of doing business I'd say. Unfortunately most people don't know how to act in a group, one bad apple is all it takes and people lose their shit, well he did this so I did it too and that makes it Ok.
The police had nothing to do with the situation other than investigating. It was start to finish in about a minute. That being said defunding is pretty silly. Maybe scaling back on the mraps and the like, outside of a few instances in the country they are a complete waste of $ for a dept to upkeep and resources could be better utilized.
There are FAR too many weapons in circulation for a ban. You'd never find them all. Trying to enforce that would create more drama and certainly many, many, many deaths. I'm guessing more than all the wars/conflicts/attacks than in the past 50 years. Not a single owner I know would hand them over without a fight, likely to the death.
Just because there is "nothing else" doesnt mean it's the right option. The police could say the same thing, what else are they to do when people don't accept instructions. I've had to deal with police a handful of times in my life. I did as I was instructed, never been harmed. Ran my mouth once, got a ticket I probably wouldn't have otherwise. Now I havent been in a situation where I was being handled by any means, no one can speculate how you'll react until you are. I know if i was trying to subdue someone in a struggle I'd likely use any means necessary and would expect the same in return though we civilians arent governed by the same standard which itself has it's own pros and cons. If I was in a protest that warranted police presence I'd probably expect nonlethal tactics being used as a high probability and come with the territory of being present, cost of doing business I'd say. Unfortunately most people don't know how to act in a group, one bad apple is all it takes and people lose their shit, well he did this so I did it too and that makes it Ok.
Don Hall
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(what happened to the 'change oil' thread?)
I used to change my own when I had a 4 post lift in the garage. The Z06 is gone and so is the lift. Dealer near me is good and charges $47.95 for semi-synthetic and a tire rotation. Tops off the other fluids and airs up the tires if needed. I'm out of there in an hour so so.
Aspen03
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(what happened to the 'change oil' thread?)
Good question!
That's not a bad deal with rotation and everything else. I'm probably not any faster than an hour by the time I think about doing it, getting to actually doing it, cleaning up, etc.
Wallyworld periodically, and currently, has the 5-quart synthetic on sale for about $23. I've also found the 820S filter there for about $4 more often than not. For those interested, there is also an active $20-$24 Mobil 1 rebate offer for up to 10 quarts from participating retailers. Final cost is under $3 per quart for full synthetic.
Not quite the $6 oil change mentioned previously but we are talking Mobil 1 synthetic here.
Not quite the $6 oil change mentioned previously but we are talking Mobil 1 synthetic here.
07navi
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Those days went with the sale of the Ex, it's all synth for me now.
Flexpedition
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Ford Quicklane mails and emails coupons regularly, $33. Maybe spend $100/year.
Is that cost for full synthetic and a Motorcraft filter?
Andrew-XLT-Ford
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I usually pay around $60 US.... at the dealer.
2003 Expedition....
2003 Expedition....
Boostedbus
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They came in and look like the real deal.
smith627
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DIY for a little over $20.
From Walmart a Havoline 6qt. bulk oil in a box and $4 FL820 filter.
I save empty kitty litter plastic container for disposal of used oil.
From Walmart a Havoline 6qt. bulk oil in a box and $4 FL820 filter.
I save empty kitty litter plastic container for disposal of used oil.
Menard LaDouche
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7 Quarts, that is what my 5.4L V8 takes (2011). Not sure why everyone is referring to 6 quarts. The dealer for $49 is the deal. Jiffylube quoted me $68. The dealer rotates the tires, does a multipoint check, and informs me if the headlights are out, or if the horn doesn't work, or if I am driving on 3 wheels. Plus I get to sit in a comfy lounge with wifi, to drink free latte's and eat popcorn. It is a pain to make an appointment 2 or 3 weeks out though. That's why I do it myself for about $30, but then I get the mess. Reaching the filter from the front and under is easy. Drain bolt, even easier. Storing the funnel and drain pan is the hard part.
zfifty
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I pay anywhere from $28 to $35, depending on the oil brand, for the oil change special at Advance Auto Parts. I usually have a speed perks coupon which discounts it an additional $5 to $10. The special consist of a 5 quart jug of 5w30 high mileage synthetic oil and a filter. Return used oil there also. Funny how the price of gasoline or petro as you call it, fluctuates here but oil stays pretty steady.
Seeing as my three 5.4's capacities are 6 quarts or more I have to purchase 2 oil change specials every so often which is why I have no shortage of oil filters. The extra quarts are used for future changes and topping off, for sometimes I have to add a quart between changes. I change oil every 5000 miles with the synthetic. Takes me about 10 to 15 minutes, no jack needed, easy peazy. One thing I will not use is a Fram filter.
Seeing as my three 5.4's capacities are 6 quarts or more I have to purchase 2 oil change specials every so often which is why I have no shortage of oil filters. The extra quarts are used for future changes and topping off, for sometimes I have to add a quart between changes. I change oil every 5000 miles with the synthetic. Takes me about 10 to 15 minutes, no jack needed, easy peazy. One thing I will not use is a Fram filter.
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07navi
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You get a system down for doing the change yourself and it gets easier. My v-10 took 6 quarts but the 5.4 takes 7 which I really like (better for the engine).
zfifty
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Seems like I have used 6 quarts before and 7 quarts other times as I recall. Can't remember exactly as I just fill to the full mark from the 5 quart jugs. The book calls for 6 quarts capacity for the 5.4 with filter on my 98, 00 and 02. I have used two different size oil filters over the years. One is longer and adds extra capacity. Mobil 1 from my stock of filters M1-301A is longer than M1-210A is shorter.
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Jst ROM
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Dam you blokes from across the pond, that's an expensive oil change. It's best to do it yourself, you'll save a lot money now and into the future. I have an 08 Expy with 210K miles on it, the only thing that's expensive is my oil filter (Bosch Distance Plus $10-$12). On Amazon/US you can get 5 quart jug of Castro 5w-20 Synthetic Blend for $16. If you're pencil thick you probable won't need a jack and stands to raise up the Expy for an oil change. Out here in Texas if I provide the filter and oil the labor cost me $25-$30.
07navi
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I use steel ramps to change mine and you can't pay me to have it done elsewhere. It gets easier every time you do it.
Boostedbus
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Yeah I’ve always been a blue collar worker and have always fixed everything I own from vehicles, houses, power equipment, guns, etc.... I just can’t imagine when the time comes that I let someone else change oil in my vehicles. I can tell you this, when that happens I’m not far from the grave. It’s just not in my DNA and it’s not because of the cost factor at all. I guess it’s the feeling that I’ve lost my man card and I’m all washed up and now conceding to the new and younger replacements of my duties. No dig intended on those who take there cars somewhere to get it done for them! I’m actually jealous that I can’t.
Trainmaster
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Amen, Brother.
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