How does this setup look for weight distribution...anyone able to get no sag on rear?

[Rosko]

Whats that trailer weigh fully loaded (or at least how you go down the road)? Looks big!

It's a pretty light trailer really, only 5670 dry weight. I'll know what exactly it is fully loaded here soon, but my previous numbers were just over 14,000 including the trailer loaded, yukon XL loaded with kids/gas and everything (paddle boards, raft, generator, food....etc).

Just a ballpark I'm guessing we max out around 7000lbs loaded, maybe a little bit over. It's a longer trailer, just over 33ft. My Yukon tows it through terrible Wyoming winds just fine, but I'm guessing the expy won't do so well with the wiggle.

 

[CaptOchs]

2003 XLT 5.4 w/ 2018 Keystone SpringDale 270LE, (7000# empty / 830 lb tongue / Reese Dual Cam WD.)

I had some squat and really bad sway. I recently dropped my rig off at the RV place to readjust the WD. There was some adjustments done to my WD to correct some sway I had. Basically the head was tilted down (trailer end) to lower the bars on trailer. That put more weight towards the end of the bar where the friction to prevent sway happens. They increased my air from 32lbs to 42lbs to stiffen up the tires. He recommended inflating tires to what's on the door sticker. Both changes helped, but the ultimate fix would be a suspension upgrade. It's an older truck with over 150k so not if that will happen or not.

Aside from the squat, how is it handling?

 

[Rosko]

2003 XLT 5.4 w/ 2018 Keystone SpringDale 270LE, (7000# empty / 830 lb tongue / Reese Dual Cam WD.)

I had some squat and really bad sway. I recently dropped my rig off at the RV place to readjust the WD. There was some adjustments done to my WD to correct some sway I had. Basically the head was tilted down (trailer end) to lower the bars on trailer. That put more weight towards the end of the bar where the friction to prevent sway happens. They increased my air from 32lbs to 42lbs to stiffen up the tires. He recommended inflating tires to what's on the door sticker. Both changes helped, but the ultimate fix would be a suspension upgrade. It's an older truck with over 150k so not if that will happen or not.

Aside from the squat, how is it handling?

I took it on a drive Sunday up i-70 from just north of Denver, over i-70 and down to Silverthorne. It handled pretty well considering the IRS. It definitely didn't handle the sway nearly as well as my old 3/4 ton Yukon, but I expected that. Overall, it handled the rest of the bumps a lot better. It performed better than I expected in most categories, so I can't complain too much .

I think the head of my WDH already has about 7 washers in it, which is on the higher end. That points it down quite a bit and adds that anti-sway friction to the head and to the end of the bars. I could maybe do one more washer, we'll have to see.

 

[Jon 15el]

I just ordered super spring sumo helpers for my coil rear suspension. Ill let you know if it helps.

 

[Jon 15el]

I put these in before our last trip. Ride height appears to be the same. No change in ride quality when unloaded. Very noticeable change in ride while towing. Much more stable, way less back end bounce.

 

[ChapPcemkr]

Jon 15el, what year is your exp? What size Coil Sumo Springs did you order? I have an 03 Exp XLT. I am thinking about getting a set of sumos but not sure what to get. Does anybody know?

 

[RustyOval]

I took it on a drive Sunday up i-70 from just north of Denver, over i-70 and down to Silverthorne. It handled pretty well considering the IRS. It definitely didn't handle the sway nearly as well as my old 3/4 ton Yukon, but I expected that. Overall, it handled the rest of the bumps a lot better. It performed better than I expected in most categories, so I can't complain too much .

I think the head of my WDH already has about 7 washers in it, which is on the higher end. That points it down quite a bit and adds that anti-sway friction to the head and to the end of the bars. I could maybe do one more washer, we'll have to see.

I put eight washers in my Equalizer, it made a big difference. The manual reads seven max, but eight really makes the tow much more stable.

 

[johnboneske]

Yeah compared to my old 2004 3/4 ton Yukon XL, the expedition wiggles a lot more in my testing on the interstate.....but it's so much more comfortable/powerful/better braking I think I can live with it (time will tell).

My old Yukon is a beast though, I've taken this trailer to Yellowstone through Wyoming winds, passing big rigs at 65mph with insane winds and it never budged....was so solid. I'll just have to get used to the wiggle again (I had a Sequoia at one point with the IRS wiggle).

Do what I did... sell your Expedition and get an Excursion diesel! I found a 2003 6.0 that's studded Excursion in Tennessee with no rust, amazing condition, for next to nothing. Pulls our new 38' 9500 pound travel trailer like it's not even there.