Can we talk HD Tow one more time?

[Expedition Dave]

Front Axle 3550 Rear 4380. GVWR 7720. XLT Max 8 pass, bench seats both rows. Mine is a 2019, not a 2020.

Thanks DUNE! Ok, you are a "MAX."

Gotcha! Makes sense now, since I *should* be the guy who can carry the most with only the FX4 and HD towing package boxes checked.

Am I to guess that a 2wd HD XLT (non-MAX) should be able to carry 1950 lbs +/- ?

 

[SEAN P SCHOEPPNER]

Which Sumo Springs did you order? I'm pulling a 28 foot Tritoon with 300hp outboard. Weighs in at 6200lbs dry. If I don't have fuel (holds 52 gallons) in it there seems to be a lot of tongue weight and I get 2.5-3 squat. It's a 2020 Max with the HD tow. Because it's spring over shock, none of the load lifter kits fit it. Thanks

 

[Rossue]

2019 XLT 4x2 has HD Tow no sunroof 202A 20" wheels bench middle row.

 

[Arthur Doumas]

2019 Max Limited 4x2 no HD tow, pano sunroof, 20" wheels with bench middle row.

 

[BLUWAGN]

Which Sumo Springs did you order? I'm pulling a 28 foot Tritoon with 300hp outboard. Weighs in at 6200lbs dry. If I don't have fuel (holds 52 gallons) in it there seems to be a lot of tongue weight and I get 2.5-3 squat. It's a 2020 Max with the HD tow. Because it's spring over shock, none of the load lifter kits fit it. Thanks

If you're asking me, they're the CSS-1168 units. I'll take a picture this weekend with the boat hooked up now that I have them installed.

 

[Wayne Decker]

Jeez. 2019 Plati, HD tow, captain's 2nd row, pano sunroof and I guess a bunch of bricks somewhere.

1507.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

There is also a Convience package, which I have, that includes the advanced rear cargo management system. I am sure this adds weight to the rear and reduces the payload capacity on some models.



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[Meeker]

As requested - the table is now in Google Docs. Analyze away!!! And feel free to add your own data or correct errors - public editing enabled.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wCAOZhHTkUjnc9Ax8fLariL04xFCkyE0w2KwwBm9NyM/edit?usp=sharing

Arthur Doumas - you are the very first to have a different Rear GAWR - any idea why?

One last time in text format:

Year Trim  Length 4wd FX4 HDTow PanoSR Rim Sits Payload GVWR FGAWR RGAWR User
2019 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1553    7450 3375  4380  Lou Hamilton
2020 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1482    7450 3375  4380  Eric Mowrer
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1647    7720 3550  4380  byathread
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  8    1629    7720 3550  4380  BLUWAGN
2019 Limited  132 Yes No  No    Yes    22  _    1619    7720 3550  4380  GB19XLT
2019 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1487    7450 3375  4380  Flying68
2020 Platinum 123 Yes No  Yes   ___    22  7    1537    7450 3375  4380  Matthew Marlowe
2018 Platinum 132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1585    7720 3550  4380  Saltwater Soul
2019 XLT      132 No  No  Yes   Yes    20  8    1613    7400 3300  4380  wakeboarder
2018 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   Yes    18  8    1671    7720 3550  4380  shane_th_ee
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  Yes   No     20  8    1767    7720 3550  4380  Joey Smith
2019 XLT      132 Yes No  No    Yes    18  8    1676    7720 3550  4380  DWs-TTEB
2020 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  7    1905    7720 3550  4380  sanman28
2018 XLT      123 Yes No  Yes   No     18  8    1633    7450 3375  4380  Meeker
2018 Limited  132 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1644    7720 3550  4380  Squark
2018 Limited  123 Yes No  Yes   Yes    20  7    1542    7450 3375  4380  Rx7gslse
2019 Limited  132 No  No  Yes   Yes    22  7    1590    7400 3300  4380  Dice Roll
2019 XLT      132 Yes Yes Yes   No     18  8    1855    7720 3550  4380  duneslider
2019 XLT      ___ No  No  Yes   No     20  8    1667    7225 3175  4380  Rossue
2019 Limited  132 No  No  No    Yes    20  8    1627    7350 3300  4200  Arthur Doumas
2019 Platinum ___ ___ ___ Yes   Yes    22  7    1507    7450 3375  4380  Wayne Decker

 

[Meeker]

OK, my pivot tables don't seem to provide any illumination. BUT, sorting by payload yields some interesting things.

1. MAX models have higher payload in general
2. FX4 have higher payload
3. Panoramic Sunroof lowers payload
4. And finally, some correlation between trim levels, with Platinum generally lower payload, XLT generally higher payload. But not perfect.

Any other options we should add? Somebody mentioned the cargo management - that would have to be part of the order from the factory though, and I thought it was a dealer option. Happy to be corrected on that.

 

[LovinPSDs]

I find it very interesting that the FX4's have a higher payload...That being said, the FX4 models are in lower trim rigs so I'd be there is more of a trim correlation there. The (3) FX4's are all XLTs

I'd like to compare the same models FX4 vs. just HD-Tow. Seems illogical that adding skid plates increases payload. That extra weight should be dropping the payload numbers down