Expedition vs Navigator

Deadman said:

We took my wifes Navigator on 150 miles trip today. My 6 and 8 year old boys asked us why Dads car rides so much smoother! lol. You can't make this stuff up guys. Theres simply no comparison in ride quality between our 2. I mean MAYBE its my Hellwig sway bars, but honestly I could feel how much worse mine rode AFTER the sway bars. It tightened it up like a sports car, but it for sure stiffened the Expo.

Either way, they're both great vehicles, but I'm beyond disappointed in the harsh ride on the luxury brand. The seats in the Lincoln are 10X better no doubt. The Lincoln downshifts constantly on small hills, where my Expo never downshifts. They both run 3.73 gears, so its either lack of low end torque, or Lincoln tuned the trans much more aggressively. I even tried it in "conserve" mode and it downshifted non stop. I've ran this exact road many times in my expo and it will stay in 10th the entire trip and walk every hill in 10th. I assumed the HO would be more powerful, but it just feels like its got less grunt down low and ALOT more at high Rpm. It screams when you really hammer it.

The dealer just swapped the amplifier on the "noise canceling" BS, so we're hoping that's part of the cause of the excessive interior noise. The dealers "claim" they CAN'T turn that off. If thats what's making all this racket, I'll be baffled as to why Ford ever thought that was a good thing to pipe "drone" into the cabin. Time will tell, we didn't get it out on the interstate where it really bellers! Hopefully thats better......

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Deadman said:

I have an 18 Black Label Navigator L 4x4 and an 18 Expedition Max 4x4 302A.

The Navigator in comparison rides very rough, you feel every seam in the road because its stiff as a board. The headrests in the Navigator force my head forward and give me a sore neck, the cam phasers have been done 3 Times on the Navigator and it just turned 20,000 miles. The Revel Speakers all screech on hi pitch songs if you turn the treble up over half, the second row passengers don't have a lot fo room to get in because the big bulky TV screens are in the way. The muffler bellers like an old Harley Davidson, its stupid loud for a luxury vehicle. The gross big touch screen looks like a 5 year old ate cheetos and then adjusted the radio, but its actually just my wifes fingerprints on it, so gross looking.

What I like, the 30 way seats (minus the damn headrests), the power, and that's about it.

I never drive the Navigator because in my opinion it rides like complete garbage. (both my vehicles have identical tires, identical wheel size, etc) We just went from WI to Miami and my wife and I BOTH chose to take my Expedition because it rides so much smoother and its SOOOOO much quieter. The muffler alone would give my wife a migraine after a couple hours of listening to it DRONE. at 80mph its just a steady "BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" noise that won't go away unless you let off the gas pedal. If it was mine (its my wifes), I would of traded it shortly after buying it. The HO 3.5 is stronger for sure, but its not worth the noise penalty.

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Deadman said:

I have an 18 Black Label Navigator L 4x4 and an 18 Expedition Max 4x4 302A.

The Navigator in comparison rides very rough, you feel every seam in the road because its stiff as a board. The headrests in the Navigator force my head forward and give me a sore neck, the cam phasers have been done 3 Times on the Navigator and it just turned 20,000 miles. The Revel Speakers all screech on hi pitch songs if you turn the treble up over half, the second row passengers don't have a lot fo room to get in because the big bulky TV screens are in the way. The muffler bellers like an old Harley Davidson, its stupid loud for a luxury vehicle. The gross big touch screen looks like a 5 year old ate cheetos and then adjusted the radio, but its actually just my wifes fingerprints on it, so gross looking.

What I like, the 30 way seats (minus the damn headrests), the power, and that's about it.

I never drive the Navigator because in my opinion it rides like complete garbage. (both my vehicles have identical tires, identical wheel size, etc) We just went from WI to Miami and my wife and I BOTH chose to take my Expedition because it rides so much smoother and its SOOOOO much quieter. The muffler alone would give my wife a migraine after a couple hours of listening to it DRONE. at 80mph its just a steady "BLAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" noise that won't go away unless you let off the gas pedal. If it was mine (its my wifes), I would of traded it shortly after buying it. The HO 3.5 is stronger for sure, but its not worth the noise penalty.

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Artie said:

You can turn it off with forescan.

Your noise complaints go against my own experience with my ‘18 reserve but these types of things are highly subjective.
As for the the head rest... mine is set all the way back, I agree with you on that complaint.

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1111ExpyEL1111 said:

Definitely a person who is paid to give a bad review on online forums.

And to the OP, like others have said, if you loved your 18 Expy so much why did you get rid of it? I think I know why but we'll keep the opinion to myself.

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