'18 Expedition Platinum vs '18 Yukon Denali
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Just came across this:
https://media.ford.com/content/ford...sed-traffic-and-navigation-app-to-ford-v.html
aggiegrad05
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This is GREAT news!!! I am a rabid Waze user and had really been trying to switch to Apple Maps for the arrival of the new truck. Now I don't have to!! Thanks for the news, Artie, you made my day!
shane_th_ee
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I've never really used sync 3, so it's tough to comment. I had a whole pile of rental cars this last year, one of which had CarPlay. I fell in love with the voice controlled text messaging. It was easy and intuitive to use. Sure, our Odyssey has some sort of voice control, but the few times I've tried to use it, it's been useless... Sync3 is probably pretty good. But the Armada still has the original infotainment software from ~2011 when the Y62 Patrol was introduced. So if you buy the Armada you have to expect that the voice control of the infotainment system and its integration with your phone is going to suck.
I'm 6'4" and no issues when trying the back seat on the '18 Expy. They were waving all the sales people over to see me back there.
The Armada's price point is very attractive but the fact they haven't sent it or the QX version to iihs for crash testing raises a big red flag for me for a family hauler.
Mike Wolfe
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Unless there is something wrong turbocharged engines do not lose any power at high altitudes. Sorry but you are misinformed.This from a retired automotive engineer
Mike Wolfe
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I should define this a bit more. Today's modern turbocharged engines use absolute sensors to define boost pressure. Therefore the engines hp & torque will be the same at 14k ft & at sea level. Lot of misinformation out there from people who really do not understand this fact.
Here is a link from Borg Warner a turbo authority
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/turbochargerAdvantages.aspx
Here is a link from Borg Warner a turbo authority
http://www.turbos.bwauto.com/en/products/turbochargerAdvantages.aspx
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The Armada is a nice truck. I looked at those as well when i bought new in 2017. The only thing i didn't like was the gas mileage. MPG matters to me. Its our travel truck for weekends north at our cabin. In the summer i saw as high as 24 mpg on our tahoe doing 63 in a 55. Goes down a bit in the 70mph zones going 80 but still around 20 mpg which is fantastic. We had a Sequoia before the tahoe and it towed just fine. It was a great vehicle. MPG on that truck was never above 18. But it towed my 6k boat just fine.
I apologize if this has been mentioned, I didn't read the entire thread.
Google Tahoe and buffeting. Lots of owners are having the problem, though not all. But if it's your car, it's miserable. We experienced it on a test drive and we could hear the buffeting and got headaches and earaches in just the 15 minutes we were in the car. Extensive threads on GM forums report that the problem is still not fixed several years later (we drove a 15).
Because of this alone we're not even looking at the GM products.
Expy, Navigator and QX80 are our top runners.
Right now we're leaning heavily to the Navigator.
Google Tahoe and buffeting. Lots of owners are having the problem, though not all. But if it's your car, it's miserable. We experienced it on a test drive and we could hear the buffeting and got headaches and earaches in just the 15 minutes we were in the car. Extensive threads on GM forums report that the problem is still not fixed several years later (we drove a 15).
Because of this alone we're not even looking at the GM products.
Expy, Navigator and QX80 are our top runners.
Right now we're leaning heavily to the Navigator.
JExpedition07
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The tests show what they show, the 6.2 is slightly better on fuel hauling at altitude all while getting about the same timing on the runs. Big V8 is reliable, cheap to repair, and simplistic low stress design, I don’t live at high altitude but the 6.2 performs just fine at altitude although it feels the lack of air more. To each their own and both are viable options I like the V8.
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Is that for me?
The range rover dealer is 100 miles away and I don't like driving that far for service. Same with the QX80, so that's a def negative for that rig also. We had a 2011 QX56 (QX80 was renamed from the QX56 but it was the same car) and for a warranty repair I had to drive it 200 miles round trip for them to confirm the repair, then back again to actually do it. Ugh. Ain't nobody got time for that!
I had a GL550 2006? 2007? It fell apart as soon as I bought it so it's put a bad taste in my mouth for Mercedes. Sunroof leaked, folding mirrors didn't work, but the final decision to dump it was it kept completely stalling DEAD. Once out in the boonies loaded with Christmas gifts headed to the in laws.
aggiegrad05
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My brother in law has a GLS450. They are very nice and I considered one. But go online and build one that’s comparable to the Expi Platinum and you are going to quickly find yourself in $90k range. If you want the GLS550 to get 400+ horsepower, you’re going to bust $100k without trying.
In my opinion it is unfair of them to compare the Merc to the Expi, given the price difference; the Navi is a better direct comparison and I haven’t been in a new Navi to be able to compare them.
In any case, his 450 been a maintenance nightmare and the thing seems to live on a healthy diet of gas, oil, and brake pads. But it is a nice place to sit.
JExpedition07
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Garrett
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Not to mention the 550 has nowhere near the room!!!!!
Clemson82
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Our previous car was a GL450, tons of maintenance and repair. It drove really well...when it wasn't in the shop.
aggiegrad05
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I think this is responsive to the thread...at least a little bit.
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https://www.caranddriver.com/featur...re-mercedes-benz-gls450-best-large-suv-page-8
Thats the link to the pg where the gls450 won best large suv. There's a lot i dnt agree with, but ive never driven a gls so i can't rele oppose it either. But theres no way the gls has as much space as an expy or feel as roomy. As far as ride and handling, the expy handles very well. Ride is very subjective, and car and driver has a tendency to rate firm sporty riding cars a bit higher than soft riding cars( i remember tham rating the xc90 a 10 in ride bit q7 an 8 in a comp test, but every comp btw them has the q7 a better rider, and theres a lot of comp btw em). They also disnt test the sequoia or armada. And they justified the test by saying the gls starts under the price criteria, most lux suvs start under their price criteria.
Thats the link to the pg where the gls450 won best large suv. There's a lot i dnt agree with, but ive never driven a gls so i can't rele oppose it either. But theres no way the gls has as much space as an expy or feel as roomy. As far as ride and handling, the expy handles very well. Ride is very subjective, and car and driver has a tendency to rate firm sporty riding cars a bit higher than soft riding cars( i remember tham rating the xc90 a 10 in ride bit q7 an 8 in a comp test, but every comp btw them has the q7 a better rider, and theres a lot of comp btw em). They also disnt test the sequoia or armada. And they justified the test by saying the gls starts under the price criteria, most lux suvs start under their price criteria.
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