Blackscreen67
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I just might need to test this limit tomorrow when it' dry!
Now that push bumper clearly kept you out of the 13s! Lol
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I just might need to test this limit tomorrow when it' dry!
Now that push bumper clearly kept you out of the 13s! Lol
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You should review post #58, timeslip shows 13.55 ET, sights set on high 12's now
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I was just going to say that I’ve hit 180km/h in mine (in Mexico) and it didn’t cut out. I was surprised as my f150 cut out at 160.
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Let us know if you make the 12's
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Nah, I'm not going that far with it. I'm only going to use what I already have. I saw something reviewing those videos of the dash, that has convinced me, had I had a couple more passes last night, the ET would easily have dropped another .25 EASILY.
The frame rate was 30/second, and yes I did go that far with it.
Combine that reduction with the other simple things, I've not done yet, turn BoostMax to 100%, get better gas, gap plugs. I am cautiously optimistic 12.99 might actually be possible next Friday.
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0-60 mph times in the 4's I would bet as well
Funny you should bring this up.
The unfortunate angle I had the camera set at, as well as possible inaccuracy of the speedometer, versus timing lights, (though I could turn the digital speedometer next time out, but still not as accurate as timing lights), might have confirmed my un-tuned, but also not 100% stock Expedition may have already eclipsed 5 second mark and hit the "mythical" 4 second mark, and ended the skepticism of such a possibility on/in one of these, either lightly modified or with simply a tune, AND HD Tow Package.
It's really passed old, that this bear hasn't been put to bed yet, but such is the internet forum way.
Blackscreen67
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That video if you do a count from the moment the Speedo moves off 0 it's just a tad more than 5secs to 60.
In order to run a 0-60 in 4.994 you have to have 576hp at the flywheel in AWD weighing 6000lbs.
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The numbers you continue to post, much like those I've also posted from OBDLink MX, are estimates at best, conjecture at worst.
I really hope you do realize that fact.
Timing lights don't lie.
Relying on a reading from an analog gauge in which it is 100% impossible to determine an exact reading, due to angle of perception, is just as foolish.
Like I said in the my last post, I didn't want to bring it up, but @Mike Wolfe did, and it sort of opened the door. Even still, I was reticent of divulging what I thought to be the case, because it relies solely on perception/opinion, not facts. You obviously have a different perception based off whatever means you are using to draw a conclusion.
So if we agree all of this is nothing more than mindless gossip, at best, I'll do you one better still.
Using this particular calculator found online, which I've used in the past, and found reasonably accurate as far as 1/4 mile times. This is the first I've used it for this little side discussion, based on the 1/8 mile ET and MPH from the second run last night, using all places to the right of the decimal, it shows................... 0 to 60 time is: 4.74 seconds.
http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
C'mon man, give up the ghost, @Mike Wolfe originally was quoted out of context completely, and from my personal first hand observation of essentially an identical truck, however his having had the benefit of shift point improvements, and other engine specific tuning, which I don't have on mine, I have no reason to doubt his 5* tuned but otherwise stock, HD Tow pkg Expedition can at least rip off a 4.9999 or better 0-60 time, in similar conditions.
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The numbers I used are the math for what it takes to accelerate 6k lbs to 60 in 4sec.
Now the better question is what can the driveline handle at max?!
Now the better question is what can the driveline handle at max?!
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Clearly there's the very real possibility for failure, relatively quickly, if I continually beat on it, even in completely stock form, if it were still, but that's not what the focus of the thread is centered around.
I haven't tried to really launch this thing very hard, at the track where there's prodigious amounts of traction available, for this very reason. Away from the track, I have, but again, I feel in that environment it is not that brutal to driveline components.
6000 lbs? That's a tad bit much for my true weight.
I'm 240lbs including the 4 lb helmet.
Ford claims curb weight of XLT STD WB, at 5692 lbs...
https://www.ford.com/suvs/expedition/models/expedition-xlt/
I usually try to show up with a third of the 23.3 gallon tank, gas is about 6.3lbs minus the 66% is approximately 90lbs less advertised curb weight.
Add 45lbs for Setina assembly on front end.
Reduction in weight by about 55lbs from OEM catback with resonator and enormously huge muffler.
~ 5832lbs
But since I'm only estimating on the difference in weight for exhaust, I'd concede to call it 5850lbs, as run down the course.
I haven't tried to really launch this thing very hard, at the track where there's prodigious amounts of traction available, for this very reason. Away from the track, I have, but again, I feel in that environment it is not that brutal to driveline components.
6000 lbs? That's a tad bit much for my true weight.
I'm 240lbs including the 4 lb helmet.
Ford claims curb weight of XLT STD WB, at 5692 lbs...
https://www.ford.com/suvs/expedition/models/expedition-xlt/
I usually try to show up with a third of the 23.3 gallon tank, gas is about 6.3lbs minus the 66% is approximately 90lbs less advertised curb weight.
Add 45lbs for Setina assembly on front end.
Reduction in weight by about 55lbs from OEM catback with resonator and enormously huge muffler.
~ 5832lbs
But since I'm only estimating on the difference in weight for exhaust, I'd concede to call it 5850lbs, as run down the course.
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You continue to use 4 seconds, as though it's 4.0000, which is not what @Mike Wolfe nor I believe is a possibility, we're both at the opposite end 4.9999, possibly a smidge or two lower LOL.
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Thanks for the support
Another person has used a 5 star tune in my thread & is very happy with the results
He has not quoted any times
Just said it was a huge improvement over stock
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Some new information from 5 star using E30 & E50 ethanol blends
Made some prodigious power
https://5startuning.com/fastest-2018-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-last-friday/
Thought you might be interested 5150 pops
Made some prodigious power
https://5startuning.com/fastest-2018-f150-3-5l-ecoboost-last-friday/
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I’m still planning on tuning, but work and life have been kicking my ass recently. Are these different than the performance/tow tunes? Sorry for the noob questions.
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Nahhh. I'm only planning to go a handful of times more, but I'll never do corn, at least, not anymore than 10%.
There's a fella running I think straight corn, plus a Whipple supercharger on a '18 Coyote V8 F-150 reg cab/short bed 4x4 DEEEEEEP into the low ten's.
There's a guy in Ohio, has an 3.5 Ecoboost truck on straight corn, and tuning, also running low ten's.
I simply want to see how low I can go, (EDIT: without flashing the ecu) with good ole high octane petroleum, then call it a day.
I submitted my time slip to dragtimes dot com, complete with timeslip, on Saturday. They've not updated their site, so either they're hella busy, or they think it's b.s. time.
Oh well.
EDIT number next: when I say straight corn, I'm referring to E85.
The fellow with the V8 '18 F-150 is from Jersey I believe he has a YouTube channel, that kind of follows his journey, building his rocket.
From what I can remember, he has huuuuge injectors, either a larger or an additional he fuel pump, supercharger, and lots and lots of other crap. He's a huge dude too, not to be mean, but if a lil fellow (definitely not me, not huge but 235+) maybe 155-165 lbs, behind the wheel, it may already turn a 9 second quarter, but that's not his objective. He wants to go as low as possible, with his bigass in there, AND without going into the motor. So his engine, most likely will grenade at some point, unless his transmission/transfer case/rear end/driveshaft does first.
He's the main reason that has prompted me to give the old box the beans at the track, even though it's a different engine, his is no doubt putting out much more torque than my v6 is with 1 or 2 additional pounds of boost over and above what Ford gives us.
Google or YouTube search for boosted f150 or boosted F-150, that thing rolls!
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Great time on that second run for sure. 13.5s is hauling for our size.
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Going to leave this here. Racechip is a major manufacturer of amazing quality "foolers" aka piggy back units. The unit for the 2017+ 3.5l TT engine nets a 75hp increase and almost 100ftlbs of torque.
https://www.racechip.us/shop/ford/f...-5-ecoboost-3496ccm-375hp-280kw-470lb-ft.html
Best thing is your factory warranty will stay intact and the unit is 100% undetectable in the pcm unlike tuners such as 5* which void your warranty.
I've personally seen a racechip unit make a car running a high 13, cut a low 12 with the fast install. Same car gained more than a sec faster 0-60.
https://www.racechip.us/shop/ford/f...-5-ecoboost-3496ccm-375hp-280kw-470lb-ft.html
Best thing is your factory warranty will stay intact and the unit is 100% undetectable in the pcm unlike tuners such as 5* which void your warranty.
I've personally seen a racechip unit make a car running a high 13, cut a low 12 with the fast install. Same car gained more than a sec faster 0-60.
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?????? So very confused by that post.
You may have missed it, but I have essentially the same thing already.
Mine is from JMS, but there are several of these products under different brand names, with different packaging dimensions, etc.
Burger Motorsports has jb4
Afe has Scorcher
Flowmaster has Deltaboost
Banks has Derringer
There's probably more out there too, but it's not like Bubba Gump, and them shrimp, they're all doing the same thing.
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