2022 Expy announced

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Did you all notice on the spec sheet the middle engine and the HO engine says it will use 93 octane? That could be incorrect as they currently only require 91. If true, that's a problem. Most locations out west only have 91. I don't think I've seen 93 since we moved out to AZ.
If you go back and look at the fine print in the 2018 Expedition brochure Ford has been using 93 octane for engine specifications from the start of the 4th generation Expedition in 2018.
 

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If you go back and look at the fine print in the 2018 Expedition brochure Ford has been using 93 octane for engine specifications from the start of the 4th generation Expedition in 2018.
OK, you got me there. Fine print on the brochure does say 93, but the big book in the glove box says 91 or higher. Maybe it doesn't matter then.
 

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Check out the link @Gumby posted!

Guess no cooled seats after all. Wondering where the extra 10 speakers got installed. The digital cluster is sweet.
Just throwing this out there, the f150 lightning is confirmed to offer cooled seats and the set up for the climate ctrl are exactly the same. The order guide should be out within the next 3-4 weeks.
 

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i’ve been biting my tongue but no longer can - i’m sorry but this center screen is absolutely horrendous IMO. not just unnecessary - but more than half of it is below the peripheral safe line.... it’s absolutely less safe for driver distraction, both for the lack of knobs - but also especially for night driving.
 

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OK, you got me there. Fine print on the brochure does say 93, but the big book in the glove box says 91 or higher. Maybe it doesn't matter then.
We get 94 octane out here from Petro-Canada. It's pretty much everywhere. That being said, we all know that if you run 87 octane in the EB engine it will "detune" down to about 360-365hp or so. So same logic with 440 hp down to about 425 or 430?

In my company's maintenance yard we only have 87 octane (but it's free lol). I usually run that with literally zero issues (obviously). When I travel, I seek out 94 or at least 91. I do notice a slight difference and tbh I may even have noticed the turbo gauge increasing pressure...but I would think that most of the masses (not many from this board mind you) would not really feel any "seat of the pants" difference.
 

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I would think that if Ford made the seats just heated, the icon on the screen would reflect that. Since it doesn’t, makes me think that there is dual functionality there. Or, ventilated seats could be a causality of supply chain issues.
 

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Platinum, Stealth Performance, and Timberline trims get 440hp.

Blue Cruise an option, standard on Platinum.

Gotta say, it’s not looking bad.
I’m actually a little pissed I just picked up a new Expedition this year. I asked the GM where I’ve been buying my company F250’s for almost 20 years, what’s changing on the 22’s as this is my first expedition. He told me a simple facelift. Grill, exterior lights, etc. then I see this! I would have waited a few months for sure. I hope he does right by me or I will be buying our Super Duty’s elsewhere going forward and that’s 4-6 a year. Now that I’m done ranting. I’m all over the new Timberline.
 

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I’m actually a little pissed I just picked up a new Expedition this year. I asked the GM where I’ve been buying my company F250’s for almost 20 years, what’s changing on the 22’s as this is my first expedition. He told me a simple facelift. Grill, exterior lights, etc. then I see this! I would have waited a few months for sure. I hope he does right by me or I will be buying our Super Duty’s elsewhere going forward and that’s 4-6 a year. Now that I’m done ranting. I’m all over the new Timberline.
You'd be waiting more than a few months to actually take delivery. Job 1 isn't scheduled until Jan and that's assuming the chip shortage issue doesn't get worse. My bet is first deliveries won't be until spring 22.
 

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You'd be waiting more than a few months to actually take delivery. Job 1 isn't scheduled until Jan and that's assuming the chip shortage issue doesn't get worse. My bet is first deliveries won't be until spring 22.
i think even later in ‘22 for the timberline... if we are lucky.
 

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Navigator has reduced towing capacity and inflated pricing on black or reserve labels, and expedition max still somewhat limited in payload, tongue weight, and rear suspension. Wagoneer supports 10k lbs towing,, but too short wheelbase.. Like the idea of the new timberline, but if it isn't available with platinum trim- not interested. Is ford trying to push limited to top trim on expedition? Impact of timberline wheels on towing? I'm not seeing enough reason to upgrade yet, at minimum..some kind of hybrid battery still needed. The only compelling vehicle right now for me is the lightning BEV truck.. apparently, there are plans to extend range with add-ons for truck or trailer. Just not sure of lightning payload in higher trims with larger battery.
1700+ lbs is limited payload? My 2020 Limited Max is @ 1710 lbs and I've seen some others in the same spec have 20-30 lbs more. Go and find a competing full size SUV that has those kind of numbers. I'll wait.
 
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In the video he's reviewing the Platinum trim, but he states the engine is 440hp. Not sure how accurate? We'll have to wait on the order guide to get a definite answer to this.
Agreed. I still question how accurate this is. Even the whole cooled seat thing still seems off to me.
 

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In the video he's reviewing the Platinum trim, but he states the engine is 440hp. Not sure how accurate? We'll have to wait on the order guide to get a definite answer to this.
Correct. Platinum, Timberline, and Stealth Performance get the 440/510 HO Motor. In this case it is just a tune, and some very small physical differences. The non-HO motors are actually capable of slightly more power on just a tune, than the HO motors.
 

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someting tells me this reviewer knows f***-all about the actual details of these vehicles.

i think determining the lack of ventilated seats from a still image on the screen is also just misguided.

not to mention, the video clearly shows the '22 platinum has the same perforated seat surfaces we have on our ventilated Gen4v1's...

even without this tell, I just can't imagine the platinum (or other trims) NOT having ventilated seat standard / optional. that's just not possible IMO. its one thing to reduce the ambient lighting to a single color - but cutting the ventilated seats? no way... they are one of the greatest features a man can have. if you know what i mean.

....but then again they still don't have engine covers, (?!:-/) so nothing would surprise me anymore.
 

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Also, I really hate this hate this dude. There is ventilated. You press and hold on the button, and it switches to ventilated. Clueless!
That's what I was thinking...a lot of manufacturers are moving to one button for seat climate control...you do one thing and its heat, another and it's cooling. Or, that button pops open an inset window for all the seat climate options.

The new F150s and Explorers also have AUTO Climate Controlled Seats. So they adjust with the larger climate system. That would also make sense as to why there is only one button on the home screen.
 

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someting tells me this reviewer knows f***-all about the actual details of these vehicles.

i think determining the lack of ventilated seats from a still image on the screen is also just misguided.

not to mention, the video clearly shows the '22 platinum has the same perforated seat surfaces we have on our ventilated Gen4v1's...

even without this tell, I just can't imagine the platinum (or other trims) NOT having ventilated seat standard / optional. that's just not possible IMO. its one thing to reduce the ambient lighting to a single color - but cutting the ventilated seats? no way... they are one of the greatest features a man can have. if you know what i mean.

....but then again they still don't have engine covers, (?!:-/) so nothing would surprise me anymore.
Completely agree with you. He called the Max the "Maximum version". Just read the back of the car and you'll get the name right dude! I still have yet to see any documentation (aside from what the guy in the video claimed) that the platinum has the HO motor. has anyone see this printed somehwere?
 
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