Catch cans anyone?

[mrmachinist]

I am wanting to put a catch can on our 19 expy. Who has experience with them?

Searching the forum JLT comes up but it only cleans the passenger side.

I have a friend that runs an elite manufacturing one on his gmc and he’s happy with it.

A local ford tech recommended the UPR. Thinking of going that route but it’s the most expensive....


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[Artie]

This has a long thread on here that can be found by using the search feature. I think the consensus was that it’s not needed with this particular ecoboost generation.

 

[TheDoug]

I bought a UPR one for mine.

They are probably not *needed* on the gen2 EcoBoost but it doesnt hurt.

 

[Dakota4ce]

Same, I thought they mixed the injection mechanisms on this last gen to help with the problem....


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[lbv150]

The catch can only goes on one PCV hose on the passenger side. Regardless of the 3.5 "improvements" a catch can benefits all engines with PCV systems.

 

[mrmachinist]

I ended up ordering the UPR kit. I’ll get it installed once it arrives.


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[Kmdcolo]

I bought a UPR one for mine.

They are probably not *needed* on the gen2 EcoBoost but it doesnt hurt.

Have you emptied it yet? If so, how much sludge did you have in the can?

 

[Calidad]

I know several brands ie car makers made changes to breather and fuel systems when this issue was discovered 10ish years ago. It was a easy fix in future versions I don’t know of any current auto makers with this issue it was solved. But if you want go ahead and run one. Do you to do it on a 2018-2020 vehicle not really.

 

[mrmachinist]

My buddy runs an Elite Mfg can on his GMC 6.2L. He got about 3oz out of it in 2500 miles. He got me researching these things. My tundra has almost 100k miles so if it was going to get caked up it’s already done. But the new Expy has 600 miles right now so I’m going to run one and see what it does.

The ford master tech at my dealer fully recommended running one for what it’s worth.


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[TheDoug]

Have you emptied it yet? If so, how much sludge did you have in the can?

After my oil change I emptied it... Mostly a watery consistency came out. Maybe 2 or 3 ounces. This was only after being installed on the expy for 3k miles.

I have had it on for another 4k now but haven't emptied yet. I can report back after my next oil change.

 

[Dakota4ce]

My dealer said no—would cause warranty issues. SMH [emoji2361]


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[mrmachinist]

My dealer said no—would cause warranty issues. SMH [emoji2361]


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The tech and service manager both told me that they would have to prove the aftermarket part caused the issue.

In the case of a catch can, you kept your motor too clean would be the only thing ford could say. I was told it wouldn’t be an issue and it was recommended to install one. They actually recommended the UPR. I had never heard of them.

I guess it depends on the dealer...


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[TheDoug]

My dealer didn't seem to have an issue with it when I asked him about it. Just said NO TUNE lol

 

[mrmachinist]

The UPR kit came in yesterday. Looks to very high quality. The can itself is very nicely made. I should be able to install this weekend.


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[TheDoug]

The UPR kit came in yesterday. Looks to very high quality. The can itself is very nicely made. I should be able to install this weekend.


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Directions are pretty straight forward.

Did you get the drain plug and tubing? It makes it so much easier to drain.

There is a really cheap option that I bought on amazon.

 

[mrmachinist]

Directions are pretty straight forward.

Did you get the drain plug and tubing? It makes it so much easier to drain.

There is a really cheap option that I bought on amazon.

I didn’t order it. I actually got it from mustang performance (UPR) on eBay for a big discount and they didn’t have the option to add it on. I figured I could always add it later if needed.

Do share the cheap amazon option though. It’s just a npt fitting and tubing right?


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[TheDoug]

The UPR kit came in yesterday. Looks to very high quality. The can itself is very nicely made. I should be able to install this weekend.


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Cheapest tubing I found at time I looked.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00TAG8480?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Hose adapter
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0784S48L7?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title

Think they wanted 39 for their kit. So this worked out well

 

[lam396]

The jlt is considerably cheaper, what makes the others so much better?

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[mrmachinist]

The jlt is considerably cheaper, what makes the others so much better?

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The JLT only cleans one side of the PCV system. The UPR cleans the whole system.


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[Plati]

Has there been any scientific analysis of the "crud" in the can to determine what it is? How about an Engineering analysis of the oil before and after? Just curious. I would want to know if the oil is being modified by the catch can. But then again I go overboard on thinking at times.