Ford back with big blocks and pushrods!

[TobyU]

V8 on new Expedition is it true?

See!! It just makes lots of people feel all warm and fuzzy to see a V8 in a truck or full size SUV.
What are they thinking taking them away!!!!
As long as there is ONE sports car or any one vehicle made with a V8, there is NO reason why we can't have that in an Expedition or F150.
I'm right, that's all.

 

[adalah]

good news, I think...

 

[1955moose]

With the V8's these days getting 16 mpg city and up, and running so clean, you can barely sniff them running, why not? Give the people what they want. Here in the U.S. we've always liked bigger than what we need. Those big ole land yacts from the 40's thru the 70's sold great. They showed your neighbor, hey I'm somebody. The Expedition is a modern day station wagon, that commands respect when you pull up next to someone. You wouldn't believe the looks I get at stop lights. Big ole green SUV, chrome big wheels, lifted, and my 320 pound moose self behind the wheel. Scares pedestrians I'm coming up on, they tend to walk a bit faster in crosswalks.

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[barongan]

Pretty interesting posting

 

[cmiles97]

I just saw my 1st "new" ranger on the road yesterday. Looks nice. It only comes with 1 motor. A 4 cyclinder twin turbo. I think it's rated to tow 7,500 lbs.

Ford is all in with turbo motors, one would think they want and engineer them to last.

MSRP: From $24,000
Towing capacity: 7,500 lbs
Dimensions: 211″ L x 86″ W x 71-72″ H
Payload: 1,609 to 2,128 lbs
Engine: 2.3 L 4-cylinder

 

[JExpedition07]

When it comes to working efficiency, reliability, and ownership cost over miles nothing beats a big block in medium duty application...Exactly why Ford designed the 6.2L in 2011 and now is adding this “big block” to the lineup. These engines are built for work, more bore spacing, cooling, cast iron blocks.

Can’t wait to drive this 2020 7.3L, breath of fresh air.

 

[TobyU]

Really saddens me to see the only engine they offer in the ranger is a 4-cylinder Turbo and let me say that any engineer that designs two turbos for a 4 cylinder is out of their mind. It does not make it that much smoother for power delivery and not worth it.
I have never been too much of a fan of Ford V6s because they never made too many good ones.
You really can't get by with a 4 cylinder in a small size or even medium sized which that might be what the Ranger is now pickup truck without a turbo.
I would just take for turbos off the drawing board.
It is odd to see how far it is all in as you put it. This is just got to be a fad with their current design teams. There's nothing new or improved in Turbos in the recent 5 to 10 years. They still do exactly what they've always done which are awesome cool great things.... especially performance applications.
They also do exactly what they've always done..... need replacing.

 

[JExpedition07]

Rangers have had 4 cylinders forever so it doesn’t really surprise me, a V6 would have been cool. I think the 2.7L EcoBoost would be a match made in heaven for the ranger.

For full size trucks give me the V8. The 5.0 is good, but it doesn’t replace the torque curve of the 5.4 Triton....so the ecoboost made more sense for the expy. The 6.2L is a good choice as well, would be nice to have a 6.2 option for the expy and 150 again instead of just the Super Duty.

 

[powerboatr]

ranger in next run for next year will most likley get two engine choices.
i was at my servicing dealer today having the edges coolant changed, its 7 years old and we could not find a definite if it had been done before.
ANYWHOOO
the bay next to my edge had a brand new ranger up high in the air and was wiggling from somebody yanking on it. the service writer said the guy just bought it and was complaining about a weird noise/rattle.
i left before the outcome was known.....but our roads SUCK bad so it could be a loose heat shield or ????

 

[1955moose]

They'll hopefully do like the 1 St year of any vehicle, expand the motor size or choices. The 2.7 would definitely be a nice box to check on the list. Who knows maybe they'll make the ranger size a little bigger if it takes off, and shoehorn in a Coyote 5.0. That would be swell. 395 ponies and a 10 speed auto. Well maybe 10 years from now, one of you guys could transplant one into your now old 2019 in 2029. Guys did that with S10 Chevy's with 350 small blocks.

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[Machete]

I am all in on Godzilla. Iron block. Cam in block vs OHC. No more direct injection. What’s not to like?

Oh some geek will complain about gas mileage of course and the harm to the environment.

Or a malcontent who suffered VVT failures or the 5.0 oblong cylinder distortion failures.

None of that speaks to this design which so far looks like a response to the market dissatisfaction w previous power plants going back to the 3v 5.4.

Now, what’s the sticker on this beast?

 

[JExpedition07]

 

[JExpedition07]

Got to love America....

Europe: “Let’s put small turbos in everything!”

America: “Hold my beer, I’ll show you how to build a real engine!”

 

[JExpedition07]

 

[houlster]

This should be a home run for Ford!

3:20 in the video...

It's designed to make the power required at stoichiometric fuel ratio? It ended up 7.3l as that's what it took to make the power they wanted running @ stoic ratios. Whatever the numbers are, I can see this thing making A LOT more power once tuners get their hands on it.

 

[TobyU]

3:20 in the video...

It's designed to make the power required at stoichiometric fuel ratio? It ended up 7.3l as that's what it took to make the power they wanted running @ stoic ratios. Whatever the numbers are, I can see this thing making A LOT more power once tuners get their hands on it.

I know horsepower sells to a certain group of the population but definitely not the largest group. Some of us don't look at horsepower in are purchasing decisions as much as we do design or durability or perceive durability.
People that tow things want to have enough power but they assume most V8 will have that already.
I'm not a fan of all the new high-tech designs because every time they come out with something new despite what they tell us and what other people on the forums tell us about how they have tortured tested it... That is all a bunch of bull. Every time something new comes out in the automotive World it takes five or six years to see all the failures. Look at all the problems.
Almost every 3.4 l and 3.8 L out there had to have the intake replaced. If we had it to do over we would demand to have an aluminum intake and wouldn't buy anything with a plastic top end.
But of course when they came out they had thoroughly designed and tested it to make it more durable then aluminum and give all the other stupid benefits they touted. Then we have the Fanboys on the internet that went on there and said oh yes they will be so much better. Well they weren't!
I don't understand how a certain group of people in the world automatically give the benefit of the doubt to a new design and accept it and hope for the best. They don't even hope for the best. They just assume it will be just fine. The other part of the population are skeptical about anything that's new that's different than the old design that's tried-and-true and had the bugs already worked out of it over the years.
One-way seems totally logical to me and I don't understand the other mindset.

 

[joethefordguy]

I’m curious as to what tea leaves Ford and GM have been reading. Why just now have they decided to bring new large gas offerings? Chrysler tells us they are developing a 7.0L V8 as well. All 3 will have a big block out for 2020! You have Ford 7.3L, GM 6.6L, RAM 7.0L.

Are the end of diesels upon us? Maybe it’s the last hoorah before everything is a golf cart, who knows.

greenies' pet politicians have been driving up the cost of operating diesels for a couple of decades now. they mean to get them all off the road eventually.

 

[carymccarr]

I know horsepower sells to a certain group of the population but definitely not the largest group. Some of us don't look at horsepower in are purchasing decisions as much as we do design or durability or perceive durability.
People that tow things want to have enough power but they assume most V8 will have that already.
I'm not a fan of all the new high-tech designs because every time they come out with something new despite what they tell us and what other people on the forums tell us about how they have tortured tested it... That is all a bunch of bull. Every time something new comes out in the automotive World it takes five or six years to see all the failures. Look at all the problems.
Almost every 3.4 l and 3.8 L out there had to have the intake replaced. If we had it to do over we would demand to have an aluminum intake and wouldn't buy anything with a plastic top end.
But of course when they came out they had thoroughly designed and tested it to make it more durable then aluminum and give all the other stupid benefits they touted. Then we have the Fanboys on the internet that went on there and said oh yes they will be so much better. Well they weren't!
I don't understand how a certain group of people in the world automatically give the benefit of the doubt to a new design and accept it and hope for the best. They don't even hope for the best. They just assume it will be just fine. The other part of the population are skeptical about anything that's new that's different than the old design that's tried-and-true and had the bugs already worked out of it over the years.
One-way seems totally logical to me and I don't understand the other mindset.

Some people have warranty’s and don’t keep their vehicles for more the 3 years.

*raises hand*

 

[TobyU]

Some people have warranty’s and don’t keep their vehicles for more the 3 years.

*raises hand*

Very true. Some people also drive and treat their vehicles like a rental car because they won't have them after 3 years.
There are a few different types of car owners.
Some people buy new but very infrequently and get the maximum amount of life out of them before they give them away, send them to the junkyard, and go buy a new one.
Some people only by quite used vehicles when the values have really bought them doubt and like to focus on the great designs that go 250,000 miles with almost no repairs.
Then some people like newer so they buy slightly used and some still have a warranty or for a small price can I have the same warranty situation as a new car purchase for a few more years.

I'm sure there are other types as we probably can't cover them all but that covers a few of the main ones.

I guess being the eternal pessimist, instead of buying a new car and just assuming that everything is going to be right as most people do and then sometimes being disappointed... I would rather buy one that is a couple of years old or even just slightly used so as to be more confident that any bugs have already been worked out regarding that individual vehicle.
Let someone else have the headache of making one two three trips to the dealer to get stuff fixed while saving a bunch of money also.
I have zero desire to have a brand new one or to be the first person to drive it or the first ass to sit in the seat as many people do.

Then my pessimism carries on to new designs and new engines that come out.
I don't want to be the guinea pig with a new engine that comes out or the new 10-speed transmission Etc.
As I mentioned in my previous post, the believers will tell you that they have thoroughly torture tested and rigorously checked out this transmission before it goes to Market and they have no concerns about it lasting a long time and being trouble-free.
As we know, over the history of automobiles, this is not always the case.
I assume there will be problems so I would rather just wait a few years down the road to see what pans out to be good in trouble free and go by that oh, while avoiding the ones that have proved to be problematic.
Once again, different strokes for different folks...
In the end, we all accomplished the same thing with having transportation and getting back and forth to work or whatever.

 

[JExpedition07]

I think most are random and evenly distributed on how they purchase. I know a lot of people who buy new and keep for 10+ years and those who trade in every few. I also know many who only buy used. When the day comes I can have a perpetual $1,000+ monthly payment on a vehicle I’ll do it....but I’m just out of the gate in this game of life and can’t come close and feed myself. I could swing a newer truck but I’d have to go out less and live less....so I just keep mine rolling. I do see the value in always having a new vehicle for sure, when it’s no longer worth your time to do your own maintenance and you don’t want down time you can’t beat new.