Has anyone seen or made a storage tray for this colossal waste of prime space? Also, Forscan the best way to disable auto stop start still?

[yupitsnuge]

Ford finally got away from the giant shifter that was in the way but now all this prime hand space is taken up by a thing you'll use 2x every time you get in the car and things you may use a handful of times the entire time of ownership for most people. They'll also took away the small slot that was perfect for your phone, pens and some coins in favor of... nothing. I'd like to add a silicone or rubber tray here but not look like crap. Has anyone seen or made something that would fit there? I came out of a 2019 F150 that I disabled auto stop start with for scan and it was super easy, is it still the best way to disable it?

 

[nationalgallery]

Do you really want to clutter up every single square inch of the interior......?

 

[yupitsnuge]

Do you really want to clutter up every single square inch of the interior......?

This spot is about as "prime" of a spot as you're going to get in the truck. Your hand naturally falls right there so yes I absolutely want to put something here for my phone. That's why I made the post. My previous 19 F150 had a small tray in between the shifter and cups and it worked perfect to hold the phone and a pen. If you put the phone on the spot now it just flies off under your feet. I thought about the rubber draw mats but that would just look tacky.

 

[yupitsnuge]

Here's what it looked like in the 19 f150...

 

[GixxerJasen]

IIRC it's not recommended at all to disable ASS through Forscan, as it disables more things than just ASS. Using the Auto Start/Stop Eliminator plugin seems to be the way most have gone to take care of it.

 

[nationalgallery]

Here's what it looked like in the 19 f150...

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That's a nice setup in the F150; more utilitarian than the 'luxury cabin' styling of the Expedition. I always keep my phone in the phone tray on the wireless charging pad and use CarPlay on the dash screen.

 

[SyndicateZ]

Just use a dremel to cut out the long rectangle. fab up a plastic tray and gorilla glue it in

 

[duneslider]

My 2019 XLT had that little tray but the fancier versions of the expedition don't have that little tray. You could by the console top for the xlt and get that little slot. I also liked to put my phone in that slot.

 

[AJ82]

Here is a picture of what duneslider mentioned

 

[nationalgallery]

I'm not sure why one would want easy access to their phone while driving, for both safety and moving violation reasons. Especially when there's a nice padded compartment for the phone that has wireless charging, USB ports, and you can access maps/phone/etc from CarPlay or Android on a nice big dash screen.

 

[sjwhiteley]

I'm not sure why one would want easy access to their phone while driving, for both safety and moving violation reasons. Especially when there's a nice padded compartment for the phone that has wireless charging, USB ports, and you can access maps/phone/etc from CarPlay or Android on a nice big dash screen.

I'm not sure why someone would be not sure why someone would want access to their phone, glasses, pens, chew toys, burgers, etc. while driving. Likewise, I'm not sure why someone would need access to a big SUV when a Toyota Corolla can get you to and from work ok... /s

People like access to their things. That slot, not on the higher end models, but available on the XLT is very hand for The Things.

 

[sixstring]

That area is used for the door.

 

[nationalgallery]

want access to their phone, glasses, pens, chew toys, burgers, etc. while driving.

Gee, none of that sounds distracting while driving — sounds like you're well on your way to your next accident.

 

[Deadman]

I put drawer liner on that area and I let me key sit there. I hate that gigantic POS in my pocket, so I let it in the car. Doesn't scratch it all up with that drawer liner on it.

 

[jjscsix]

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone thought to find out if there is anything under there? Todays vehicles have so any electronic devices that require their own ECUs that they take up a lot of space. I see it even on my newer motorcycles.

Don't just assume there is empty space under there.

 

[sjwhiteley]

Maybe I missed it, but has anyone thought to find out if there is anything under there? Todays vehicles have so any electronic devices that require their own ECUs that they take up a lot of space. I see it even on my newer motorcycles.

Don't just assume there is empty space under there.

There is some electronics under the console, clearly, but there's also a lot of space. The console is relatively easy to 'snap out' (added some cables to the 12 outlet in the console itself). Maybe a 3D printed removable 'slot' to allow a phone to drop in? Obviously requires a bit of engineering work...

 

[PhoenixRizez]

I'm not sure why one would want easy access to their phone while driving, for both safety and moving violation reasons. Especially when there's a nice padded compartment for the phone that has wireless charging, USB ports, and you can access maps/phone/etc from CarPlay or Android on a nice big dash screen.

I’m going to go out on a limb here and suggest that most people want easy access to their phones while they are driving is because a) it’s convenient for them, b) they don’t think they are being unsafe, and c) they don’t care about a violation because most states don’t aggressively enforce it. And even in the states that do, it’s still very easy to use the phone without getting pulled over. The chance of a ticket is slim to none, unless they are completely engrossed in the phone and oblivious to their surroundings, and at that point they well deserve a ticket.

As far as the padded compartment, I rarely use it because it overheats my iPhone. Plus, if I put it in there I’ll probably forget to grab it when I leave the car.

And most importantly, how am I going to get to the next level in Angry Birds if my phone is hidden down in that secret compartment while I’m driving?!!!

But thank you for your one-man crusade against texting and driving. We all know the world is now a better place with your added contribution here on the Expedition forum. You truly deserve Captain America’s shield.

 

[josedirte4]

I think the OP makes a great point. I also wondered why they got rid of that slot. The padded area for the wireless charger is honestly very tight getting the phone in and out of especially with the sizes of cell phones these day. Also, the wireless charger is useless if you have a newer iPhone with a bigger camera bump. It rarely works on mine not to mention is not good for the battery since it heats up the phone excessively. I'd say 99% of people have phone cases which adds more bulk to the camera bump. Either way, I don't think he was saying he wants that slot so he could be on his phone when driving, but more or less if you're at a stop sign, it's much easier to use your phone to text verses Carplay. I think wireless Carplay wasn't made available until the 2022 models either. So us older model owners don't get those same benefits. I think if I had wireless Carplay, it wouldn't bother me as much, but without it the only spot I could find to place my phone, keep it plugged in, and that's somewhat hidden are the slots on the side of the center console.

 

[nationalgallery]

But thank you for your one-man crusade against texting and driving. We all know the world is now a better place with your added contribution here on the Expedition forum. You truly deserve Captain America’s shield.

The 22-yr-old who mowed down and killed four 18-20 yr-old college girls this week along PCH in Malibu was texting while he was driving. I doubt the parents of those girls would find your comments very amusing.

 

[sjwhiteley]

I think the OP makes a great point. I also wondered why they got rid of that slot. The padded area for the wireless charger is honestly very tight getting the phone in and out of especially with the sizes of cell phones these day. Also, the wireless charger is useless if you have a newer iPhone with a bigger camera bump. It rarely works on mine not to mention is not good for the battery since it heats up the phone excessively. I'd say 99% of people have phone cases which adds more bulk to the camera bump. Either way, I don't think he was saying he wants that slot so he could be on his phone when driving, but more or less if you're at a stop sign, it's much easier to use your phone to text verses Carplay. I think wireless Carplay wasn't made available until the 2022 models either. So us older model owners don't get those same benefits. I think if I had wireless Carplay, it wouldn't bother me as much, but without it the only spot I could find to place my phone, keep it plugged in, and that's somewhat hidden are the slots on the side of the center console.

I added a magnetic holder to the 'coin holder'. Required a bit of butchery to put a piece of metal to attach a clamp-on magnetic holder. It can even be replaced with a wireless charger mount. A cable runs down and under the center console, and through to the USB ports next to the almost-inaccessible wireless charger. It keeps it just below the air vent but easily within reach. The steering wheel blocks the view, a bit, so seeing the directions (for example) can be a bit of a pain. It'd be nicer if it was higher, but it's going to block something.