Hillbilly Redneck

[1955moose]

Better, you don't have to tear down motor. Just pull plugs. I like the $4.95 postage paid! Who wants to pay that pesky 79cents additional! Was great to be a carny, or pitch man back then. Ever see the crap that even doctors had back in the day. Shock therapy was one of my favorites. Or in the real early days, leaches, and blood letting at barbers and doctor's. How do you think the barber pole colors started.

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[TobyU]

This why I get into with people who say they are right because "the medical world" says so.
You mean the current medical world. The same people that were using leaches and doing ice pick lobotomies for personality ticks for over two decades.....up until almost 1970.
Don't eat eggs. 2-3 a day will kill you. 30 years later...oh sorry those eggs won't hurt you.
I'll pass.
This is just hard sciences and medicine. The soft sciences are completely subjective to times and society's view on things....well the lobotomy might be the other way or example of a little of both....but you get the idea.

 

[RhinoQuartz]

This pretty much sums up my opinion on zoning laws. I heard Houston almost had no zoning laws but that was 10 years ago.

"the sole purpose of limiting to what their neighbors want" or the majority want. Just like democracy is tyranny by the majority.
The word AMERICA meant something to me. It included all the freedoms and liberties and individual and ownership rights to the hilt, but they have taken most all these away.
Who are they??? Complicated. The govt since it has been legally done, but its really some of the people.
What I have witnessed is some ONE person gets their ******* in a bunch over a neighbor doing something they down like....lets say pouring a nice cement pad to park a motorhome on next to side of house. They find out it is legal...so they go to a council member or get with other neighbors and get that mob mentality going since they only hear the one neighbors side of debate and all you have to do is get one council member to sponsor an ordinance. Then they have 2 public reading or hearings on it and then vote.
They can change a 50 year standing policy in as little as 45-60 days before most people even know about it.
There is no voting by the residents.
They can give public input...but most don't know about it until it's too late.
This is how they have zapped our rights away.
It all goes back to the snooty neighbor and the ones like them that don't think others should have control of their own property as long as they keep it on their side of the fence.
So I have a big problem with people like this or with these tendencies since I know where it leads and where the problems came from.

It is completely UN-American!
We no longer live in America...we are simply the United States...of what I am not sure.
If you think of something new to do or different or something that benefits you or makes life easier....there will usually come along an ordinance to prohibit it.
It is very sad really.
EXCEPT for the snooty, nosy, control freak neighbor type people who prefer it.

That's what HOAs and developments with CC&Rs were made for. So uptight birds of a feather could flock together. But basic city and country has gotten more restrictive and it should not have.
i love it when I see a 70s house in a nice upscale neighborhood with huge set of HAM radio beams above the roof. You know at least someone had to hate it but no rules to stop them.
They tried with even satellite tv like dish as first and the HOAs prohibited ANY antennae but due to the immense power of the commercial satellite TV companies that were growing rapidly, they got congress to pass laws to exempt them.....But the locals take more and more rights away every chance they get.

Houston is abysmal from an urban planning perspective. If you're not at least middle class income and don't have your own vehicle, life is rough.

Actually most of North America has terrible urban planning - at the human scale anyway. On a vehicular scale, different story.

 

[TobyU]

Houston is abysmal from an urban planning perspective. If you're not at least middle class income and don't have your own vehicle, life is rough.

Actually most of North America has terrible urban planning - at the human scale anyway. On a vehicular scale, different story.

I think you mean urban planning by like city transportation and public transportation and stuff like that. I can't stand any of that and wish it didn't exist.
Not to sound arrogant or rude but I thought most of the country was middle-class America. I know the way things have been going going with the government taxing us to death and stuffing like that I know more people are slipping into lower-middle-class but lower middle class the middle class is where most people have been at for a long time. The first thing I did when I turned 16 was come up with enough money to buy me an old car. Then I learned how to work on it and fix it up because it was an old car that needed some fixing or soon would. Then you live at home and save some money or move out with two roommates in an apartment so you can survive. Then eventually you start dating somebody and you move in together and eventually the two of you work your way up in jobs enough to survive. I don't believe in City living above a two-story house. I think everyone should live in the suburbs and have at least a couple of cars and yard that they mow every 7 to 14 days.
So I don't see the need for any urban planning other than the occasional new shopping center but most of that has already been built up over the years. Sprawl is actually a bad thing. They just need to keep things the way they are revamp or facelift The Shopping Center's every 20 or 30 years and just keep going and going and going like we've been. I live within 5 or 6 miles from where I was born and only moved three or four times and yet I have still lived in three different suburban cities.
I rode in a taxi one time in my life when I went to Ohio State University to stay the weekend with a friend because he didn't have a car up there.
People should be able to live their entire lives in these type of communities and never ride in a cab or need an Uber.
I understand living in Chicago or New York is a totally different way of life and some people couldn't stand my way but the vast majority of the country is not in big cities. Even Atlanta seems a lot like my area. Few people really live in the downtown Metro Atlanta area it seems they all just go there to work or whatever and then they drive on the crazy fast-moving multi-lane freeway systems to get there. Now Chicago seems entirely different. They have the L and people embrace the big city way of life with public transport and all that. But yet there are still tons of suburbs and lots of stuff going on around Chicago so it's kind of weird. I think most people there still have cars.
I know this is way off topic and stuff and we were talking about zoning laws but if you live in Like a downtown Urban City Zoning is unimportant to you because you live in some loft or some apartment or some building. All you care about is the next Diner opening up or the next food place but open your closing. I'm talking about suburbs where everybody lives on at least a 1/4 and hopefully at least 1/2 acre lot has several cars and a trailer probably a motorcycle or a dirt bike or four wheeler or boat sitting around and hopefully an attached garage or a detached one out in the yard or at least how big 10 by 13 shed.
That is a huge amount of the way the land is used in this country.

 

[RhinoQuartz]

I think you mean urban planning by like city transportation and public transportation and stuff like that. I can't stand any of that and wish you didn't exist.
Not to sound arrogant or rude but I thought most of the country was middle-class America. I know the way things have been going going with the government taxing us to death and stuffing like that I know more people are slipping into lower-middle-class but lower middle class the middle class is where most people have been at for a long time. The first thing I did when I turned 16 was come up with enough money to buy me an old car. Then I learned how to work on it and fix it up because it was an old car that needed some fixing or soon would. Then you live at home and save some money or move out with two roommates in an apartment so you can survive. Then eventually you start dating somebody and you move in together and eventually the two of you work your way up in jobs enough to survive. I don't believe in City living above a two-story house. I think everyone should live in the suburbs and have at least a couple of cars and yard that they mow every 7 to 14 days.
So I don't see the need for any urban planning other than the occasional new shopping center but most of that has already been built up over the years. Sprawl is actually a bad thing. They just need to keep things the way they are revamp or facelift The Shopping Center's every 20 or 30 years and just keep going and going and going like we've been. I live within 5 or 6 miles from where I was born and only moved three or four times and yet I have still lived in three different suburban cities.
I rode in a taxi one time in my life when I went to Ohio State University to stay the weekend with a friend because he didn't have a car up there.
People should be able to live their entire lives in these type of communities and never ride in a cab or need an Uber.
I understand living in Chicago or New York is a totally different way of life and some people couldn't stand my way but the vast majority of the country is not in big cities. Even Atlanta seems a lot like my area. Few people really live in the downtown Metro Atlanta area it seems they all just go there to work or whatever and then they drive on the crazy fast-moving multi-lane freeway systems to get there. Now Chicago seems entirely different. They have the L and people embrace the big city way of life with public transport and all that. But yet there are still tons of suburbs and lots of stuff going on around Chicago so it's kind of weird. I think most people there still have cars.
I know this is way off topic and stuff and we were talking about zoning laws but if you live in Like a downtown Urban City Zoning is unimportant to you because you live in some loft or some apartment or some building. All you care about is the next Diner opening up or the next food place but open your closing. I'm talking about suburbs where everybody lives on at least a 1/4 and hopefully at least 1/2 acre lot has several cars and a trailer probably a motorcycle or a dirt bike or four wheeler or boat sitting around and hopefully an attached garage or a detached one out in the yard or at least how big 10 by 13 shed.
That is a huge amount of the way the land is used in this country.

Your ignorance is astounding and your lack of understanding of the world around is a little disconcerting.

While the average urban dweller may not care about zoning laws, the higher the population density of a particular area, the more important they become. Both the cities you mentioned, Chicago, and NYC, are great, albeit quite complex, examples of this.

And, on a separate note, it seems that you're using your life experiences as the basis for how others have, do, and should, lead their lives. Very odd, but go you, I guess.

 

[Trainmaster]

"Redneck" and "Ignorance" is considered related by many city folks as well as by all socialists. Remember that losing socialist lady's comment about "deplorables"? One only needs to look at Venezuela and Canada to see how socialism fails its people.

As the past election proves, most Americans want life to be independent of government meddling, especially with America's federal government's takover by internationalists.

Vastly different from the "planned urban society".

Some feel their communities shouldn't be planned, controlled, taxed and subsidized by government. Of course there's a middle road somewhere, that protects those living on a 40 x 100 lot from his neighbor hoarding mountains of scrap tires and breeding mosquitoes in them.

 

[RhinoQuartz]

"Redneck" and "Ignorance" is considered related by many city folks as well as by all socialists. Remember that losing socialist lady's comment about "deplorables"? One only needs to look at Venezuela and Canada to see how socialism fails its people.

As the past election proves, most Americans want life to be independent of government meddling, especially with America's federal government's takover by internationalists.

Vastly different from the "planned urban society".

Some feel their communities shouldn't be planned, controlled, taxed and subsidized by government. Of course there's a middle road somewhere, that protects those living on a 40 x 100 lot from his neighbor hoarding mountains of scrap tires and breeding mosquitoes in them.

Your use of buzzwords is interesting. Maybe look up what socialist means before using it. Clinton most certainly is not one. She's a centrist, if anything.

Canada and Venezuela are also 2 countries that are wildly different, weird to see them compared. Also, no elaboration on that, am I meant to draw my own conclusions on your feelings towards what you consider to be socialism?

Ignorance and redneck may go hand in hand, although that really depends on what kind of knowledge someone is ignorant of.

Just because someone is a hillbilly or a redneck doesn't make them ignorant. There is quite a bit of overlap, but the same can be said for those living in cities. I've lived in both types of areas and I've found that people in general are just ignorant outside of their own lives, for the most part.

I also don't understand what "government meddling" is meant to mean, but I guess I'll just keep on being ignorant to the great American truth (TM).

Honestly, your post just reeks of regurgitated fox news propaganda. It would be satirical if it weren't so sad, but that's just me and my opinion.

 

[Plati]

On the "zoning" topic. I live in a blue collar neighborhood that's part of a bigger upper middle class town. In my little cul de sac … neighbors park their trailers, work trucks, boats, etc. in driveways. Neighbors driveway looks like used vehicle dealer (fine with me). Town passed an ordinance banning parking a bus truck boat or trailer in front of house (BS IMHO). So new guy moves in up at the corner and pretty soon town highway department trucks are taking a tree down on his property, grinding up the stump, planting grass. Town Employees! I can see he works for the town (town vehicle parked in his driveway). I contact the Town Supervisor and inquire why government resources are being used on his property. You should have seen the dancing that followed that! So they end up 'splaining it to me (ie damaged tree within 25 feet from center of road on right of way yadda yadda). OK fine. Stretching the truth a bit but fine whatever. You cant fight City Hall and I'm ready to drop it. Next thing I know that homeowner is looking at MY property asking neighbors why I park my snowmobile trailer in my driveway? Questioning other houses and "zoning". I guess he's a Building Inspector for the Town. The whole thing settled down and went away but don't you love it when Government Officials abuse their power!!!!

The other thing is the guy across the street. Basically only cuts his lawn when the town forces him. Everything overgrown bushes, no raking of leaves, his back yard is like a jungle with racoons snakes ground hogs foxes birds … like a jungle. He has like 20 dogs that bark like crazy whenever they leave the house. I think he had to get a Kennel Permit because people complained (not me, although he blamed me). Neighbors ****** about him and his property nonstop (I think they enjoy the complaining). Me … I like what he does there. I'm kind of a National Park lovin natural environment Dude. No noise from lawnmowers, no chemicals, no pollution, doesn't burn gas or take time to maintain. Lots of wildlife (he has DUCKs living in the front yard at times). His lawn is greener and healthier than mine (although a lot more weeds) and I'm a lawn freak manicuring it constantly. I say its his property and if that's what he wants to do let him do it. I only see the advantages (like no noise on a Sunday afternoon). Of course, I don't plan to ever sell my house so property values are not of concern, just peace in the neighborhood.

Great neighborhood. If I go off on a 6 week Walkabout in summer … I don't have to worry about my yard, Vinny across the street will take care of it for me. Dont even have to ask him, no questions, or payment. Likewise he had shoulder surgery so I took care of his driveway this winter, when I was in town. We never discussed it

 

[Trainmaster]

Rhino, why are you calling me names and belittling me? Why do you think you are better than I? Is your contempt for all Americans or just those who celebrate their independence?

You must be quite a guy!

Stick to the State-run TV stations up there and you're safe from the evil guns and freedom and capitalist nonsense.

 

[Adieu]

"Redneck" and "Ignorance" is considered related by many city folks as well as by all socialists. Remember that losing socialist lady's comment about "deplorables"? One only needs to look at Venezuela and Canada to see how socialism fails its people.

As the past election proves, most Americans want life to be independent of government meddling, especially with America's federal government's takover by internationalists.

Vastly different from the "planned urban society".

Some feel their communities shouldn't be planned, controlled, taxed and subsidized by government. Of course there's a middle road somewhere, that protects those living on a 40 x 100 lot from his neighbor hoarding mountains of scrap tires and breeding mosquitoes in them.

Psssst... there's nothing whatsoever wrong with Canada.

Damn place is calm, chill, and thriving