New Sequoia vs 22+ Expy

[rd618]

Anyone test drive the new sequoia and can cross reference their experience with the refreshed 22/23 expedition?
I have been looking to test drive one but no dealers near me either have a sequoia or they are sold faster than they are delivered.
Specs seem solid and the rear air ride is nice option. Expedition is nice, I have a 304a SPP, but 70 more ft lbs of torque, roughly the same towing and fuel economy. No brand is perfect. But Toyota has a stronger reputation for reliability and not haggling their customers for repairs.

 

[TheDoug]

Well I have not driven one, but my neighbors just got one and it looks like it got hit with an ugly stick. I would not want that thing in my driveway on just the looks. (which I know is subjective)

 

[dlcorbett]

https://www.cars.com/articles/2023-toyota-sequoia-vs-2022-ford-expedition-how-do-the-big-suvs-compare-455157/

Yea sequoia are hard to come by. The toyota dealership by the base has one but one but I dnt think I'd want one now since the back seats smaller. I do like how they look though. Since you have a 304a, the above article is a direct comparison with what you have.

 

[fcong]

Check out the back of the new Sequoia, you may or may not like the fact that even with all the back seats folding down, you can't get a flat surface...

 

[Hellwig]

Check out the back of the new Sequoia, you may or may not like the fact that even with all the back seats folding down, you can't get a flat surface...

And Sequoia is not good at towing stability, according to the video below. Not sure if SR5 + Sport package will improve towing stability, though.

2023 Toyota Sequoia Towing Review: Huge Improvement! But With Compromises

The 2023 Toyota Sequoia is a much-needed update over the outgoing model, and @toyotausa did quite a bit! We towed a 20' enclosed trailer with the #toyotasequ...

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[Bennifer88]

I test drove the TRD trim several months ago of the new Sequoia, and personally, I felt the pick up was awful, the interior felt cheap and much smaller than the Expedition, and the lack of space in the back due to the bump out in the third row for the placement of the battery pack/lack of folding seats flat - it was a hard no for me. The outside does look nice but that's about it. But that's just my preference. I ended up getting the Expedition Timberline, which I love!

 

[jjscsix]

I wanted to drive one about three months go. He said they are asking $15,000 over list for them but will come down to $7,000 over. They did not have one in stock but it really didn’t matter.

I wanted to drive a Wagoneer but there were none equipped the way I wanted within 250 miles. Needless to say I’m an Expedition owner instead.

 

[LazSlate]

The ones with the black grill do not look bad. But the interior is very plastic and clunky. The sliding trays, cupholders, etc.
It cannot even come close to the niceness of the Ford Interior. I like Toyota as a brand they make some great stuff like the 4runner.
But I would take a Gen 4 Expy any day over the Sequia even if it was 10-20k cheaper.

 

[Rob6805]

The fact that the third row is so horribly designed that it does not fold flat should be a deal breaker for anyone but a true Toyota fan boy..

 

[Andy B]

Check out the back of the new Sequoia, you may or may not like the fact that even with all the back seats folding down, you can't get a flat surface...

That's when I crossed it off my shopping list.

 

[Andy B]

This is the back of the 2023 Sequoia. Hard pass for me.





Here's the Expedition.

 

[rd618]

This is the back of the 2023 Sequoia. Hard pass for me.


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Here's the Expedition.
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Crap, don’t see that in the online materials.
Good to know.

 

[dlcorbett]

If your looking for an alternative, the wagoneer is probably the best of the bigs.

 

[Rob6805]

This is the back of the 2023 Sequoia. Hard pass for me.


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Here's the Expedition.
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The Sequoia is completely useless for cargo. What in the world were the designers thinking?

 

[dlcorbett]

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Well I guess everyone's entitled to their opinion....

 

[Woodwolf]

This is the back of the 2023 Sequoia. Hard pass for me.


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Here's the Expedition.
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This is a excellent comparison Picture. What I don't understand is why the Toyota is designed this way. Is there a technical reason? I know for a fact that they look closely at competitors vehicles to get design inspirations.

 

[dlcorbett]

This is a excellent comparison Picture. What I don't understand is why the Toyota is designed this way. Is there a technical reason? I know for a fact that they look closely at competitors vehicles to get design inspirations.

The battery. They could only put the battery underneath the third row with the 10 speed. This is also why they switched the live axle rear, space for the battery. They should've went the ram route and attached the battery to the transmission and used less speeds to make it fit.

 

[Deadman]

They still have a solid rear axle under them, so its like 1950's technology. Nice job Toyota. Thats also why the rear floor is so hi.

 

[dlcorbett]

It's weird, back in 2004, Chrysler was able to put a solid axle under the durango but keep the load floor relatively low and allow good legroom in the back while also keeping the ride smooth. No other brand has been able to do this since.