Can we talk HD Tow one more time?

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

byathread

Full Access Members
Joined
May 8, 2019
Posts
219
Reaction score
139
Location
Pennsylvania
I still want to know why some of us have the 3550 FAWR with a 7720 GVWR while others have the 3375 FAWR and a 7450 GVWR...
Think that is a difference between Standard and Max on the FAWR. An eye opener for sure to see everyone's door stickers! Also, I'd think the lowest payload is a Standard Platinum with no tow with all the fancy (heavy) shit in it. Maybe an XLT/FX4 max combo with 2nd row captains chairs no pano roof is the highest? My limited has seat heating in the 2nd row captains, not sure if leather/cloth matters much there for weight...
 

sanman28

Full Access Members
Joined
Jun 24, 2019
Posts
195
Reaction score
150
Location
SW MO
Does Ford have a "payload" calculator on their site? If not they should. Payload capacity is really important to future buyers when shopping. Having to go around to different lots and open doors to see the sticker is so antiquated.

Really? Payload capacity on a SUV is a non issue. Towing might be....but
Is it a Limited or an XLT?


Xlt
 

Fasttimes

Full Access Members
Joined
Jul 26, 2018
Posts
227
Reaction score
96
Location
Miami
Really? Payload capacity on a SUV is a non issue. Towing might be....but



Xlt

It's a huge issue for me as I tow an RV. It's sometimes the difference between whether someone goes or not on a trip when taking extended family. My current 10' Eddie Bauer Expy with HD tow only has a capacity of 1402lb. When you add up trailer tongue weight, cargo, passengers I'm over capacity in a jiffy. Took three teenage nephews on a trip this summer. With their weight and I in the vehicle, no cargo, we were over the capacity by about 100lb. Had to not invite the 4th nephew, let me tell you that did not go over well with the wife.

Looking to upgrade to an 18' or 19' model next year so I'm paying a lot of attention to this. I would love to be in the 1700 payload range. I know I'd like a Limited, non Max, 2x2, HD tow package. Would take a Platinum if they had more payload, but doesn't seem to be the case.
 

Matthew Marlowe

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2020
Posts
71
Reaction score
32
Location
San Diego
My FX4 Max with HD Tow

uGInwOs.jpg
1900lbs payload is higher than my 2020 ranger truck ... which is a stripped down low tech speedy two seater that just happens to include 6ft truck bed. I only bought it because My kid needed his first car and I wanted to avoid buying a utility trailer for furniture and yardwork.... but its limited to 1800lbs, if I remember correctly.

1900lbs in expedition is astounding.... sort of like finding someone with the heavy duty high payload F150 XLT rated for 2200-2500lbs.00136466883aafd02650527153bf1ac0.jpg

Sent from my SM-T820 using Tapatalk
 

Joey Smith

Well-Known Member
Joined
Sep 9, 2019
Posts
80
Reaction score
15
Location
Sunnyvale, CA
I have a payload of 1767lbs for my
2019 Expedition Max XLT, 202A, 4x4
HD Tow Package, no panoramic sunroof, 20” alum wheels. The seats are not leather (ActiveX) and 2nd row are bench seats.
It does have the Driver Assistance package and Nav. Other numbers are:
GVWR: 7720
Rear GAWR: 4380
Front GAWR: 3550

When purchasing I did not realize the variation in this number but I have started towing a travel trailer and having this payload budget has been helpful. My main efforts have been more on keeping an eye on the Rear GAWR and keeping the tongue weight below the 900lb limit.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Tripinbillie

Member
Joined
Aug 15, 2019
Posts
18
Reaction score
3
Location
Austin, TX
I have a payload of 1767lbs for my
2019 Expedition Max XLT, 202A, 4x4
HD Tow Package, no panoramic sunroof, 20” alum wheels. The seats are not leather (ActiveX) and 2nd row are bench seats.
It does have the Driver Assistance package and Nav. Other numbers are:
GVWR: 7720
Rear GAWR: 4380
Front GAWR: 3550

When purchasing I did not realize the variation in this number but I have started towing a travel trailer and having this payload budget has been helpful. My main efforts have been more on keeping an eye on the Rear GAWR and keeping the tongue weight below the 900lb limit.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Interesting.. so Max and/or 4x4 must provide more payload with less overall towing? My 2019 is very close to yours (4x2, and non-Max) with 1670:

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/conten.../guides/19Towing_Ford_Expedition_r1_Dec21.pdf
 
Top