Tow package fuel economy

[shane_th_ee]

We were shocked when we went to settle up with the finance guy and he had options for 72 months and some longer. Then he was shocked when we wanted zero months.

But you have to ask "at what rate?" The captive finance arms need loans with good credit scores so they can mix them in with the high risk loans and sell them off in tranches as CDOs. And the parent companies need them to make those high risk loans to move product. So if you have a good credit score, you have the ability to create something they want (a low risk loan) and they have something you want (money). The trade happens via the captive finance company subsidizing the interest rate on your loan. Which means you can arbitrage the interest rates between what you can earn in your investment accounts vs what you have to pay in interest...

 

[Wayne Decker]

We were shocked when we went to settle up with the finance guy and he had options for 72 months and some longer. Then he was shocked when we wanted zero months.

Maybe more like disappointed than shocked- the dealer makes a lot of money on financing- sometimes more than they do on the vehicle.

 

[Artie]

Maybe more like disappointed than shocked- the dealer makes a lot of money on financing- sometimes more than they do on the vehicle.

We ended up financing a little to get deals on the warranty and maintenance plan. The rate was so low we would make more money on our cash than spend on the financing so it worked out for both parties.

 

[Artie]

But you have to ask "at what rate?" The captive finance arms need loans with good credit scores so they can mix them in with the high risk loans and sell them off in tranches as CDOs. And the parent companies need them to make those high risk loans to move product. So if you have a good credit score, you have the ability to create something they want (a low risk loan) and they have something you want (money). The trade happens via the captive finance company subsidizing the interest rate on your loan. Which means you can arbitrage the interest rates between what you can earn in your investment accounts vs what you have to pay in interest...

Very good point and we ended up financing some to save on the extended warranty and maintenance plan while also making more money on the cash we kept in the long run.

 

[KenK]

2018 XLT 4x4 Max with HD Tow pkg and 3.73 gears.
Computer says 13,000 mile lifetime is 19.5mpg but that is about 1 mpg optimistic. Haven't towed anything heavy enough to tax this thing so not sure about serious towing mpg. 21-22 mpg is typical on the highway. Mileage is great at 60mph, still good at 70mph, starts to taper off at 80mph.
Older 5.3L Suburban Z71 with 342 gears following the same commuter route averages 15-16 so I am very pleased with the Expy's fuel mileage and power.

 

[carymccarr]

If you can’t afford the gas you can’t afford the truck. An old man used to tell me that when I was younger. Quit your crying lol

I usually pay cash or payoff within a year or two (if there is a 0% rate or something silly) but still care about gas mileage.

Making money is the easy part. Keeping and growing it is the harder part.

 

[Scott Hunter]

2019 XLT with tow pkg (haven't towed with it yet). 18 mpg city/mixed, 24 mpg on long trip.

 

[coupe11]

Filled up the 2014 (5.4, 3.73 rear) this morning after just over 300 miles of local driving.

Pretty surprised it calculated out to 20.2 mpg. Best since we got it. Then again, going down the roads it's only running about 1100 rpm at 40/45 mph.

 

[Calidad]

19 Platinum standard length with heavy tow pack/gear set. 18mpg in town typical kid shuttle stuff. Road trips 21-22mpg 65-75mph so far.

Considering my past Trucks were Toyotas LC at 12mpg down hill with tail wind and a Sequoia 15-16mpg regardless of use type

The Expedition is impressive. Hell my Subaru typically returned 26-28mpg with nearly 300hp less ha ha.

 

[Lou Hamilton]

We were shocked when we went to settle up with the finance guy and he had options for 72 months and some longer. Then he was shocked when we wanted zero months.

I was offered 0% for 72 months.

I took this versus paying up front. This way my cash earns interest as I pay off the vehicle. Win-win, IMO.

 

[Artie]

I was offered 0% for 72 months.

I took this versus paying up front. This way my cash earns interest as I pay off the vehicle. Win-win, IMO.

There’s no reason to pass that deal up, it’s literally free money.

 

[nobrainer]

saw this a while back on YouTube it tows with the expy and compares fuel milage..

 

[Dice Roll]

It's not terrible and I'm not devastated, just a bit disappointed with the 18.8. I don't expect that much all the time or even really that much more, and I wasn't hoping for a ton but it does say 22 hwy on the sticker, so I was hoping to stretch her legs a bit and hit a number that started with a 2 is all. It seems possible based on other posts on here. Overall it's not bad, but my 2009 5.3 Suburban got 2 mpg less than that on hwy trips so the jump from the V6 and ECO mode just wasn't as high as I thought it might be. I'll keep working to increasing my mpg skills.

well you could have a Honda Minivan. They lie and say like 27. Maybe being pulled by a tow truck. Calculated by hand they get 19ish with a little mixed driving and 21 tops on straight Hwy. I’ve tried both stock and eco delete cable and it’s about the same. Total bs.

 

[Dice Roll]

I getcha. At first i thought the same. I learned what mines likes best. Its easier for me to get to fords numbers since mines is 2wd.

what exactly are you getting? I’m looking at a 2wd platinum and a 4wd limited. Same money within a few hundred. I kinda like the looks of the limited better and it has 302a so the CCD is there. Think I’d really only lose adaptive cruise and some leather I don’t care about.

 

[dlcorbett]

what exactly are you getting? I’m looking at a 2wd platinum and a 4wd limited. Same money within a few hundred. I kinda like the looks of the limited better and it has 302a so the CCD is there. Think I’d really only lose adaptive cruise and some leather I don’t care about.

You wont lose adaptive cruise on 302, but you will miss the massage seats. I liked em, wife loved em, but the ltd seats are slightly more supple since theirs no mechanism. Also, idk if you drove them already, but platty is quieter overall as well. I have reg springs on my ltd but I think i saw on here the platty tuned ccd is slightly better than ltd tuned ccd. As far as mpg is concerned, my lifetime avg is 18 being a daily driver, as a road tripper it was at 22. On the hwy, i usually avg 24ish mpg with a 72mph avg. I live in delaware and taken it to dc, md, sc, fl, ny, pa and tx twice. If i want best mileage, i put cruise on 65mph. Best i did was 29mpg goin to dc. All trips going south, it avg 25mpg with avg range 590miles(570 btw fillups). Those numbers are based on truck comp, but hand calc spread was less than half a mile per gallon. It does considerably worse goin to ny or pa. As a reference pt, we took wifes cx5 to san antonio same rte we take expy, 1600mi. 3 fill ups for expy one way, 5 fillups in the cx5.

 

[aggiegrad05]

what exactly are you getting? I’m looking at a 2wd platinum and a 4wd limited. Same money within a few hundred. I kinda like the looks of the limited better and it has 302a so the CCD is there. Think I’d really only lose adaptive cruise and some leather I don’t care about.

Platinum also gets you: more hp, light colored headliner instead of black, real wood inlays instead of whatever is in the Ltd/Xlt, better/more leather, really nice quilted leather on the doors, massaging seats (worth it), active noise cancellation, brushed nickel exterior accents instead of chrome, brushed nickel sideview mirror caps instead of body color, brushed nickel roof rails instead of black. I also seem to remember the carpets are thicker, but I may be misremembering that.

If you like the look of the Ltd better, go for it. But I love the plati.

Oh, and my heavy foot and I get about 15mpg lifetime. That’s hand calculated (so not the dash computer which says 16.2 lifetime) and is about 75/25 city/highway. On road trips I average about 20.5.

 

[dlcorbett]

O yea, all my hwy trips are done in eco mode as well.

 

[Dice Roll]

That’s some good info guys, thanks.

the limited I drove had nice seats. I’ve seen someone in here complain about hard seats in a platinum. I need to drive one, but the small dealer here doesn’t carry any.

I like the limited grill and the brownish death and wheel. I thought the headliner was tan too. The platinums all appear to have black dash and other things, don’t really care for that. The noise canceling is probably a good thing to consider as an offset.

I don’t need a 4wd. I lost out on a 2wd limited that was a bit cheaper than these two. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on a 13 hour trip to see them. Might wait until late in model year to see if incentives are decent enough to place an order. Seems things won’t get much cheaper than these marked down 19s though. Been watching for last 8-9 months. I’ve got good van, just not good enough after living with it.

 

[aggiegrad05]

That’s some good info guys, thanks.

the limited I drove had nice seats. I’ve seen someone in here complain about hard seats in a platinum. I need to drive one, but the small dealer here doesn’t carry any.

I like the limited grill and the brownish death and wheel. I thought the headliner was tan too. The platinums all appear to have black dash and other things, don’t really care for that. The noise canceling is probably a good thing to consider as an offset.

I don’t need a 4wd. I lost out on a 2wd limited that was a bit cheaper than these two. Having a hard time pulling the trigger on a 13 hour trip to see them. Might wait until late in model year to see if incentives are decent enough to place an order. Seems things won’t get much cheaper than these marked down 19s though. Been watching for last 8-9 months. I’ve got good van, just not good enough after living with it.

Definitely sit in a Platinum. I am not in any way attempting to disagree with those on here who have complained about the seats being a little firm, but most folks who sit in mine make comments about how comfortable the seats are. Including on long road trips.

And it’s very possible the tan headliner trickled down to the Ltd in ‘19s or ‘20s. In the ‘18s it was only available on the platinums.