Brand matters more to some than others so that may not be the determining factor.
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'18 Expedition Platinum vs '18 Yukon Denali
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Brand matters more to some than others so that may not be the determining factor.
I drove 2 2015 Denalis. First one traded after 10 months, had issues. Drove the 2nd one for 3 years and traded it in for multiple smaller issues that dealer could't resolve after months. Getting my Exp tomorrow and will never go back to GMC. Been a Chevy/GMC man my whole life. Hopefully ford worked out major kinks before releasing unlike GMs first release of the tahoe and yukon.
I never test drove the Platinum but even the xlt EXP drives much better IMO. I hated the acceleration of the Denali. There is a delay from pedal to performance, but once the Denali kicked in it was great. The magnetic ride in the Yukon was very stiff. Yukon felt better in turns at speed, but I prefer the tougher(not rougher) truck feel on a ride this large. Denali has a stiff sporty ride on a heave large suv. All about personal preference here.
Both are great inside. Yukon not as good for my rear facing baby car seat. Features are very simliar. Edge probably goes to Denali on this.
Now for the real issue for me. The Yukon feels air tight sealed and bothered my ears. The ford probably has slightly more road noise, but I prefer that to the dampened road noise that to me sounded like very low level base thumping. Yukon was much quieter on smooth road conditions but slow speed bumps in the yukon felt like I was sitting inside a base drum.
I know the Yukons have worked out most of the issues by now, but make sure to do extended test drive. Google "Yukon denali pressure/drone sensation and booming" issues before you test drive to make sure the one you are looking at does not have the issue. 2 of the 3 GMs I had had it. Some people are more sensitive to this issue than others. It drove me crazy on road trips and while my wife noticed it, she tolerated it much better.
Good luck in your decision. I hope you enjoy the new ride.
I never test drove the Platinum but even the xlt EXP drives much better IMO. I hated the acceleration of the Denali. There is a delay from pedal to performance, but once the Denali kicked in it was great. The magnetic ride in the Yukon was very stiff. Yukon felt better in turns at speed, but I prefer the tougher(not rougher) truck feel on a ride this large. Denali has a stiff sporty ride on a heave large suv. All about personal preference here.
Both are great inside. Yukon not as good for my rear facing baby car seat. Features are very simliar. Edge probably goes to Denali on this.
Now for the real issue for me. The Yukon feels air tight sealed and bothered my ears. The ford probably has slightly more road noise, but I prefer that to the dampened road noise that to me sounded like very low level base thumping. Yukon was much quieter on smooth road conditions but slow speed bumps in the yukon felt like I was sitting inside a base drum.
I know the Yukons have worked out most of the issues by now, but make sure to do extended test drive. Google "Yukon denali pressure/drone sensation and booming" issues before you test drive to make sure the one you are looking at does not have the issue. 2 of the 3 GMs I had had it. Some people are more sensitive to this issue than others. It drove me crazy on road trips and while my wife noticed it, she tolerated it much better.
Good luck in your decision. I hope you enjoy the new ride.
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JExpedition07
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A lot of people do blindly follow brands. I’m guilty of this with Ford, a trip to any forum will prove your point to be semi true for diehards.
Congrats on your new minivan purchase
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I've owned expeditions because I like the look of it more than any other reason. Same with my other vehicles.
There was a point when I was younger that I was more or less brand loyal because everyone seemed to be. I eventually realized it didn't matter and being brand loyal is ridiculous.
What have they really done for you to make you loyal to them? Your parents were brand loyal and now you are? maybe one of them worked for a company and/or retired from them so they are so great even though the others offer similar retirement packages? On the other hand, One or two people had a bad experience that you heard of so you don't want anything to the brand? Even though it probably happens similarly with the other brands?
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RenegadeBad_Dog
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Yeah we used to hate Fords. Owned nothing but Chevys every thing from 2 Malibu's one of which we just purchased about a week ago we have also owned a 03 Tahoe and a 2007 Chevy Suburban. They all have been great vehicle until be bought our 2012 Traverse it had issues, always getting something fixed on it. Did get a Ford till the 2016 Expedition a few weeks ago as well. The only big reason we got it is because the dealer we worked with help us get rid of most of the negative equity on the Traverse. The expedition was just the right fit at the time. Brand loyalty now a day's really doesn't matter especially when you're comparing it to Ford and Chevy both companies or strong American brands it's all a matter of preference of style in engine.
Clemson82
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When we bought our first SUV we went with Ford because they didn't take the government bailout. Can't say I'll only ever buy a Ford, but I can say I'll never by a GM.
Garrett
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I've owned GM forever and prefer GM, but this isn't even close. Read to reviews, watch the videos, look for yourself.
The Gator and Expy are light years ahead of them all. And they are getting well deserved kudos from everyone.
The Gator and Expy are light years ahead of them all. And they are getting well deserved kudos from everyone.
You do realize that GM plaid back ALL the money they borrowed plus interest? The government actually made money on that deal, not the other way around.
Actually no- taxpayers lost about 11 billion on the total GM bailout- from Townhall and George Mason University Law School professor Todd Zywicki
" In addition to the $2.5 billion taxpayers lost on Ally Financial, they also lost $11.2 billion on the GM bailout and $2.9 billion on the Chrysler bailout."
"the UAW subsidies forced on GM and Chrysler by Obama cost taxpayers $26.5 billion"
Not to mention the loss of GM bondholders of roughly 27 billion dollars- to say the GM bailout was anything other than a government disaster is not correct
Clemson82
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Regardless of whether or not they paid everyone back (hint-they didn’t), it’s un-American for a company to take taxpayer funds. This wasn’t something caused by terrorism or war, it was caused by mismanagement, pure and simple. When one company receives government funds over another, it gives them an unfair competitive advantage. We are the country we are because we live in a mostly capitalistic society. Other car companies would have become stronger if GM had failed or been privately restructured. I know there are plenty of other examples of governments propping up poorly management companies, GM is just the most egregious example.
JExpedition07
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Capitalism works. GM should have been left out on their own. They would have been bought up and pieced out or restructured, the govt shouldn’t have got involved.
JExpedition07
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They wouldn’t have failed that’s not how our system works. Competitors would have bought out the pieces if they couldn’t reorganize and have their debts forgiven. Nothing is too big to fail and the govt had no place doing what they did. Instead the govt waisted billions and piles on debt. The dems in our govt don’t understand good deals and efficiency, hence they aren’t very efficient and very anti business.
In my opinion, If the government would have NOT done TARP, most banks would have failed too, and life would have sucked more.
It all depends on what numbers you look at, but in the end people will believe what they want to believe, either way, which is fine by me!
U.S. ends TARP with $15.3 billion profit
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/19/news/companies/government-bailouts-end/index.html
It all depends on what numbers you look at, but in the end people will believe what they want to believe, either way, which is fine by me!
U.S. ends TARP with $15.3 billion profit
http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/19/news/companies/government-bailouts-end/index.html
shane_th_ee
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Of course, given the discounting on the GM products vs the lack of discounting on the Fords, the real question seems to be Expedition Limited vs Yukon Denali...
JExpedition07
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TARP, was signed into action by President Bush,Not Obama. that was to relieve the financial industry of “toxic” assets and investments, to an extent it was good. The Fed bought up these bad investments to relieve to banks. But saving GM from its terrible mismanagement is no good for capitalism, it sets an example that corps don’t have to stay competitive and the govt will bail them out if there big enough. Either way let’s not continue the conversation I just believe in the business cycle and am not a fan of the govt overstepping. There is no profit in bailing out financial institutions and corporations, put that focus on their own deficit and watch their own numbers because news flash to them they stink, they are worse than GMs mismanagement. Only difference is the govt. can lie and cheat and steal and print money all day, GM can’t. We put many protections in place after round one in the depression and we didn’t even exercise them to see how they’d work, we over reacted and printed money like crazy and bailed everyone out. It’s all a slippery slope. Done with my rant.
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